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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782785 September 25th 2021 7:46 am
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Thats a very nice one.


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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
newkirkinc1 #782823 September 25th 2021 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by frscke1
Thats the same one I have in my '92 ...

Originally Posted by newkirkinc1
Thats a very nice one.

I am looking forward to using it. It looks as if it has been in the box untouched for 20 years. Everything is in great shape. CR Laurence recently started discontinuing all of their sunroofs.

Ok, update today. So, when I first got my van, I noticed it had a good amount of positive camber on it. Since owning it, I have really delved into the world of Ford Twin I Beam suspension. The main issue everyone had with lowering the mid Ford van is the early Twin I Beam has no camber adjustment like the later ones from the 70's, 80's, and 90's. There is a Ford specific way to adjust camber and that would be with a special tool to cold bend the beams with a bottle jack. Most alignment shops no longer have this tool and probably haven't for the last 25-30 years. Some frame bending shops and even large truck alignment shops may be able to do it for you. Maybe.

Well, a lot of talk has gone around about the DJM Dream Beam lowering beams for the F100 fitting the Econoline. It is true, they fit and will lower the van up to 3" with no camber changes. But the kit is usually $750 or more. These kits have been very hard to get since Covid screwed up the supply lines, which leads me to believe they come from China is some degree or another. I was sold on ordering a set until I really researched the product. Buried in many forums are tales of failure and frustration with the company. Many of these posts go back into the later 00's and all have the same issues. Bad welds and thin tubing used for the beams that are prone to failure. What sealed it was seeing a picture earlier this summer of a set that failed. I can kill myself many other ways for less than $750, thank you very much.

So I hunted around a bit more until I found Jamco Suspension. They make a set of lifted coils for the mid Ford as well as up to a 3" drop. These coil springs are made to order. It took about 2 months but I finally got a set of 3" drop for my van. It took an afternoon of wrestling old rusted bolts but I got it all installed and the front dropped. I still have to replace all the bushings so I won't call this the final stance, just yet. It may change the final product.

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There is a very minimal amount on negative camber which can be seen in the last pic. I plan to run a 15x7 up front and I think that will help keep down on the tire rubbing. If I had to do it again, I think a 2" drop would have sufficed in addition to a stiffer E-200 spring. But at least I know I can still get the coils made to order.

Now, back to the body work. It has been moving a bit slow but we are starting to pick up some pace. Roof rot has been discovered and is going to get patched up. The barn doors have some rot. Good news is there are only two, one for each side with the issues. I had two spare doors but they were window doors. I called a friend of mine and he happened to be looking at an E-200 sitting in a yard with rear pop outs. I promptly requested them and now I will have rear pop outs on the van. I plan tint them dark enough to see out but where no one can see in. Or get lucky and find some louvers. I haven't decided yet.

I'm going to hold onto the sunroof and see how I want it installed when get back from BYOB. I'll most likely do it over the cabin for fresh air flow through the back of the van. This project has made a lot of twists and turns in two years but I feel I am finally on track.


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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782840 September 26th 2021 11:32 am
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Wow Charlie ; you've done a lot of hard work. It will be worth it in the end. That NOS sunroof is off the hook; not to mention your sticker/Decal ( Are you going to do a Chevy ? ) chevy

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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782843 September 26th 2021 1:20 pm
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Very nice work!


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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
newkirkinc1 #782892 September 27th 2021 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by newkirkinc1
Very nice work!

Thank you!

Originally Posted by SDMickey
Wow Charlie ; you've done a lot of hard work. It will be worth it in the end. That NOS sunroof is off the hook; not to mention your sticker/Decal ( Are you going to do a Chevy ? ) chevy


Probably not, I like that this one kinda looks like my van. Especially if I used that old Cal Jammer.


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I am so stoked for these pop outs to get picked up on Saturday. So stoked.


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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782895 September 27th 2021 4:54 pm
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YARD RAT LOVE IT !!!


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Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782926 September 28th 2021 12:07 am
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I thought you might start selling stickers. ! grin

Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782948 September 28th 2021 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Charlie99909
Originally Posted by frscke1
Thats the same one I have in my '92 ...

Originally Posted by newkirkinc1
Thats a very nice one.

I am looking forward to using it. It looks as if it has been in the box untouched for 20 years. Everything is in great shape. CR Laurence recently started discontinuing all of their sunroofs.

Ok, update today. So, when I first got my van, I noticed it had a good amount of positive camber on it. Since owning it, I have really delved into the world of Ford Twin I Beam suspension. The main issue everyone had with lowering the mid Ford van is the early Twin I Beam has no camber adjustment like the later ones from the 70's, 80's, and 90's. There is a Ford specific way to adjust camber and that would be with a special tool to cold bend the beams with a bottle jack. Most alignment shops no longer have this tool and probably haven't for the last 25-30 years. Some frame bending shops and even large truck alignment shops may be able to do it for you. Maybe.

I would imagine many a hotrod shops would be able to do this or point you in the right direction. No shortage of straight axle fords on the ground, would think tooling is real similar. Magnum axle comes to mind, has an address a few hours south of you.

Re: 1969 Econoline Shorty
Charlie 99909 #782970 September 29th 2021 1:18 pm
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Give my buddy Paul over at Old Anvil Speed Shop a call and he'll be able to send you in the right direction if he can't do it himself. He's a metal fab genius man.


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