Vanning.com logo
Boxdin
Site Navigation


Advertisements
Recent Posts
What is your gas prices?
by SDMickey - January 22nd 2021 12:10 am
1st time van owner NE MN
by lukester - January 21st 2021 11:14 pm
Air Cleaner temp sensor
by wrcsixeight - January 21st 2021 6:04 pm
Hi from Long Beach CA
by Rancho_Deluxe - January 21st 2021 5:49 pm
Headlights dim when on the gas pedal.
by wrcsixeight - January 21st 2021 5:49 pm
Featured Links
Vanning.Com is a an authorized Amsoil Dealer


Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
FUEL GAUGE NOT WORKING 1973 DODGE TRADESMAN VAN
#768269 December 05th 2020 10:01 pm
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 27
S
newbie
OP Offline
newbie
S
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 27
Hi all. My 1973 dodge tradesman van that I inherited from my uncles a few years ago which had an in accurate fuel gauge has now stopped working completely and is showing empty after a full fill up. Any ideas where I should start looking please don't tell me I have to drop the fuel tank LOL!

Attached Files 1973 DODGE TRADESMAN VAN.jpg
Re: FUEL GAUGE NOT WORKING 1973 DODGE TRADESMAN VAN
Stephen0523 #768697 December 18th 2020 12:28 am
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 9
stranger
Offline
stranger
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 9
If it's anything like my 88, you have to drop the fuel tank. It really isn't that hard. Empty it out by using the in built pump, find the fuel pump relay and put power to the right bit. I disconnected the pipe that went to the filter underneath the car and pointed it into a series of jerry cans. I've seen people online who cut a hole in the floor, and missed the right pl;ace, making a riught mess. It seemed to me afterwards that dropping the fuel tank was easier than cutting a nasty hole.

Re: FUEL GAUGE NOT WORKING 1973 DODGE TRADESMAN VAN
Stephen0523 #769545 January 10th 2021 9:08 pm
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,403
Likes: 2
pooh-bah
Offline
pooh-bah
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,403
Likes: 2
Hi Stephen0523, here's a few things for you to check, not in any specific order.

Do you have a voltmeter or ohm meter? One would be highly desirable.

There's a small ground wire which runs between the fuel sending unit on the tank and the frame. The wire can corrode inside it's insulation, leaving you with what looks like a wire, but which has been reduced to a hollow vinyl tube! The ring terminal at the end of the wire is held to the frame by a screw which can corrode, blocking current flow. It might be worth unscrewing it, cleaning the terminal, then applying some antisieze or dielectric grease to the terminal and screw, then tightening it back up. Bad grounds are by and large the largest electrical issue vintage Dodge owners encounter...

Are your other gauges working? (Oil pressure, coolant temperature) If not, on the circuit board behind the instrument cluster there's a small mechanical voltage limiter/regulator. It's bolted right into the circuit board. You should measure battery voltage on one side, and a slowly pulsing voltage on it's output... The idea is to have around 5 volts output on average. This allows for the gauges to maintain some level of precision regardless of the state of charge of the battery. The other reason for this bizarre device is that the gauges aren't normal magnetic meter movements; they're thermal devices like thermometers, so the average amount of heat over time is what moves them. The mechanical regulators can last for decades...

The big round multipin connector which mates to the pins on the instrument cluster circuit board might be worth (carefully) reseating. Keep in mind that decades-old plastic becomes brittle, especially in an automotive environment. If it's never been removed, I'd consider using a screwdriver under opposite sides of it to push it up carefully, slightly, one side at a time, -after you disconnect the battery terminal!! And be careful with the plastic nose of the speedometer cable - you *don't* want to break it!

Inspect the base of the large pins on both sides of the circuit board. If the phenolic circuit board, Copper circuit board traces, or the silvery gray solder has developed noticeable cracks or crystallization, or milky white rings, they will require repair/resoldering.

There's not much else to the system other than the sending unit, the long run of wire up to the bulkhead connector, and the bulkhead connector. As with the sending unit ground, that long wire can corrode out inside.
You should be able to probe the terminal right at the bulkhead connector to see what sort of voltage or resistance is present. Disconnect your battery first if you're trying to measure resistance.


The pins inside the bulkhead connector are certainly subject to corrosion, since it's only marginally sealed. It's not the simplest thing to take apart, so I'd put an ohm meter on the sending unit to see if you get a reading before I'd consider wading into the bulkhead connector.

There were several different values of resistive element used in the sending units. You would need to have a decent idea which maximum value you've got to try to specify a replacement. The values are usually pretty low; you'd be using the lowest scale on an ohm meter to identify most sending units. The minimum resistance is at full tank, maximum at empty, so you'd either need to empty your tank or pull the sender.

Oh, the gauges themselves are nearly immortal. Not especially precise; the spec for an acceptable reading gauge is 3/32" of needle travel! Of course they claimed this was a 'feature', as it typically left you with a slight reserve of fuel when the gauge read empty...

A volt ohm meter is definitely your best friend for troubleshooting this system. At least it's an extremely simple circuit.

Last edited by Ram4ever; January 10th 2021 9:26 pm. Reason: spelling

-It's been such a LONG TIME... BlueShift>> 1981 Dodge Ram B250 Custom Sportsman Maxi Van


[Linked Image]

It's what you learn after you know it all, that counts...

Are you living to work, or working to live?

[Linked Image]

Learning from my own mistakes is good, learning from yours would be much better! [Linked Image]

Moderated by  Astro, Ram4ever 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Donate


discovery
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 6 guests, and 4 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Moonlightsailor, A100kustoms, MoeB, LilRiverMan, AJB
11780 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
SDMickey 189
frscke1 91
Lee7673 22
samhain 20
NateB 20
Forum Statistics
Forums68
Topics38,509
Posts539,879
Members11,780
Most Online177
May 8th, 2013

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4