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Disappointed in fellow vanner .
#767038 October 30th 2020 9:13 am
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I've owned vans since the early '70's. Always enjoyed the van gatherings and events in the Northeast. The camaraderie was the best part of vanning. Guys were always willing to help each other out, share ideas and parts. (started to get long-winded here, edited). Since I moved to Florida in 2019 I decided to look for another third gen Ford. After many months of being "too late", I spotted a For Sale listing on this forum. It was the 1984 Ford listed by dreamweaver77. I contacted him and we talked several times, about the van, about vans we both had in the past, about the price. I told him where my max $ was. He told me his mechanic had replaced both fuel tanks, sending units, selector switch, fuel lines, intake gasket, brake lines, front wheel bearings, master cylinder, AC lines, condenser, rebuilt compressor, and he had receipts for all of it. He guaranteed me , except one tiny ding on driver side, there was no rust whatsoever on this van. He guaranteed that every door weatherstrip was like brand new. I called my BIL (not a car guy) who lives 25 minutes from the seller, and asked him if he had a buddy with car knowledge who could go look at the van. Nobody. Since we were in the middle of COVID-19 I had to trust a fellow vanner and agree to purchase the van. Sent money to BIL, had him pick it up and store it at his house until I could pick it up. When BIL picked van up there was a hissing noise, so seller popped hood and refrigerant was shooting out side of compressor. Right there seller called me and, in front of BIL, told me of the problem and told me to have it fixed and he'll pay for it. After it sitting in his driveway (with occasional start-ups) for four months, I finally decided to fly to Ohio and drive the van home. Very first contact with the van, started it and BIL pointed out both tanks were on "E". Headed right to nearest gas station, first stop sign brake pedal went all the way to the floor. Bad sign. Filled both tanks, only took 22.6 gallons (!! ?). Pulled into service center next to gas station, asked them to check brakes. Guy shows me master cylinder full of black lumpy goo. Needed new master and brake lines ($900). Back at BIL's next day, looking van over, trans fluid leaking, oil pan gasket leaking. Noticed bubbling paint on roof above drip rail, reach up and entire drip rail is rusted almost through (in body shop now). Open rear doors and there's water on floor and crushed velvet on doors is soaked and moldy. Every weatherstrip was shot, cracked, crumbling at the top. I decided to get on the road. First gas stop I lost power steering. No PS, no AC, no radio the whole 17 hour trip. If my speed got over 55 mph I could hardly keep the van in my lane. Looong drive home. I decided the first thing was to get the AC fixed and re-imbursed before I start my tirade. Emailed seller the bill for AC repair, he responds " No problem, I did tell you I'd SPLIT that with you." Called him and told him to just listen until I'm finished. Ran through the entire list. He denied knowing of any problem, he said none of those issues existed when he had the van, it drove perfectly, everything functioned perfectly, his mechanic went over everything , " I don't know what happened during the time your BIL had it." I did my best to keep cool and asked him to help me out with some of these expenses. He said NO. I told him he's a liar and a cheat. Now everyone knows. ( I know, still got long-winded ). So much for camaraderie and brotherhood.


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Re: Disappointed in fellow vanner .
oldskool73 #767042 October 30th 2020 11:36 am
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Beware of used car salesmen. With today’s technology, it’s easy to get pictures and videos of everything. Now you know more things to specify. when buying in country, it’s probably still worth the couple hundred bucks to inspect it yourself.

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Re: Disappointed in fellow vanner .
oldskool73 #767046 October 30th 2020 2:52 pm
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That just sucks.


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Re: Disappointed in fellow vanner .
oldskool73 #767053 October 30th 2020 6:53 pm
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NOT COOL !! I would love to voice my opinion but id probably get kicked off this site.

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oldskool73 #767055 October 30th 2020 7:23 pm
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Total bummer. I know what it is like to get burned by another seller. I just chalk it up to experience and move past it. I tend to see a lot of third gen Econolines in the junkyaards. Give me a shout if you're looking for anything in particular.

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Re: Disappointed in fellow vanner .
oldskool73 #767057 October 30th 2020 8:45 pm
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That really sucks. Not all van owners are vanners. I would like to think a real vanner would not do this to one another. But I guess like any other family there are toxic and negative family members.


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Re: Disappointed in fellow vanner .
JIMMYSHIRTS #767078 November 01st 2020 10:43 am
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Hey Jimmy, yeah that sux. Muzt be related to a current candidate. There's a lot of junk out there. It's gonna be a crap shoot. Especially sight unseen. Hey! At least the headliner didn't fall down on you on the trip home, and you made it safe..
You could always use abbreviated words to describe your opinion of an individual, like PO$! or ask are you a? questions without name calling. Kinda like Lawyers write letters. Maybe even make a meme! The Wild Cherry thread can give you some pointers. Check it out.
Good Wrenching!

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oldskool73 #767081 November 01st 2020 1:52 pm
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Have met Oldskool, very nice honest van guy, Looked up the POS Dreamweaver 77 under members section, he posted from 2009 to may 2020, last post before he lied and stole from Oldskool, Dreamweaver 77 occupation listed as mechanic, He knew he was selling a piece of junk, he has not posted since, You would think someone that has been a member on here with over 300 posts should be able to trust. Are we allowed to post Dreamweaver 77 real name and where he lives, Maybe one of the Ohio van clubs could stop by and have a beer with him.

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oldskool73 #767083 November 01st 2020 3:12 pm
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AND it takes a dark turn ....locked


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