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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749651
June 14th 2019 2:29 pm
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Hey Bro, Hi.

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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749701
June 16th 2019 1:59 am
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I hit the local yards quite a bit and usually come up on a few good items and lucked out when I found an early ram van bumper in really good shape. Here’s the comparison from old (right) and new (left) and mounted on the van. Small details but it looks much nicer.
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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749724
June 16th 2019 8:34 pm
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nice score...those headlight bezels are getting hard to find...ive been lucky enough to have scored an extra set from a junkyard to keep as backups....looking forward to pics of the norcal install and how you went about mounting it....

Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749813
June 19th 2019 3:03 am
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I did some prep on the wing tonight to get it mounted. I was a little nervous doing this but my plan came together.

The wing itself is not all that thick, maybe 3/16" my biggest concern was getting a good bite into the fiberglass and I saw a post on this forum while doing some research that I thought was a good plan so I essentially went for it. I didnt want to rely on screwing directly into the wing and having the threads get damaged if I need to remove it at any point so here's what I did.

First step was to get it in position and mark it on the roof. I traced the base on the roof with a wax pencil and will use this outline later on. I marked both sides like this. The line is to mark where I planned to drill holes.
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I struck a line across both sides of the bases like so and again, marked spots where I would drill holes, 3 on each side.
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These are the tools I used to accomplish this and the hardware I plan to use. Solid threaded steel insert (not a helicoil), grade 8 bolts, rubber washer and grade 8 washers, drill and tap.
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Drilled pilot holes at each location.
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Drilled larger holes per the tap size and tapped each holes
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Test fit each hole for thread connections (removed the thread lock later)
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Got prepared for each side. 2 part epoxy rated for 3400 psi. Hole drill bit was used later to turn the threaded inserts into place, it fit perfectly into those notches and allowed me to thread it in by hand.
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I mixed the epoxy, used the chopstick to apply some epoxy into the hole ahead of time to the inside of the edges, then applied a liberal amount of epoxy onto the threads themselves, set them in and turned them down into the tapped threaded holes I made
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The excess worked perfectly to grab the sides of the insert, I left them about 1/8" from flush as best I could on each hole. My plan is to also use another set of rubber washers between the roof and the wing itself isolating any connection between those two pieces.

Now they cure for 24 hours and I will move onto painting the wing flat black to match the van (wont be an exact match but this will look better than white while I wait to get it painted.

I will post more progress of how I templated each side and will use those templates to align with the outline of the room to mark the holes I need too drill in the roof.

My goal is that these threaded inserts, epoxied in like this will give it tons of strength and lots of surface area to have a bolt go into. Kurt also supplied snap toggle bolts which I will use as a final secured attachment once the van is painted and the wing will never come off again.


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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749816
June 19th 2019 8:18 am
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man that is PERFECT....that puppy aint gonna go nowhere....hell,you could even go with taller tires and take out hiway overpasses with the wing....NICE JOB...this will help alot of us wanting to use a norcal

Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749833
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A little thing that was disappointing (granted Kurt doesn’t make these) but he told me there was wood at the bases of wing so I thought i’d have more to screw into but this ended up ok. I have to chase the threads a little bit tonight. I was extremely careful to not get epoxy into the holes but even a little drop or string that ended up somewhere on the threads will cause a bind. But that’s pretty simple.


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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749854
June 19th 2019 5:38 pm
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Nice work on the wing mounting it sure does look like a pain the butt. When I put on my cab visor I used double sided 3M tape and then a glob of silicone on each screw and (knocks on wood) have been leak free for a year.

Unrelated but damn that front chrome bumper looks damn good

Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749860
June 19th 2019 7:07 pm
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Thanks! I've learned that double sided tape is the way to go. Dodges are tough because there's no drip rail above like the Chevy. I wish I used it on my other dodge to get it in place before I screwed it on. It's crooked and it bothers the crap out of me. Lessons learned. This van will get a visor eventually too so I will definitely do it better.


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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749930
June 22nd 2019 9:37 pm
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Got it all mounted, everything lined up great and it’s very secure. Looks super cool as well. One little step at a time.
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Re: 1987 Dodge B250 [Re: Deathorvictory] #749938
June 23rd 2019 11:40 am
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nice,finished ,clean installation.....looks great...now i gotta get one

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