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Vacuum lines and EGR #748520
May 17th 2019 12:28 pm
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Hello all, newer here. Bringing an old Class B, my first Chevy, back to life. I pulled my emissions crap off, capped the manifolds, now I’m re doing the vacuum lines. I’m wondering if someone could help with a few questions:

Do I simply delete all vacuum lines that went to the emissions crap, reroute them as if they were never there?

Most of these lines are turning to dust when pulling them off, anyone know the sizes? I have the vacuum diagram but it doesn’t show them. Looks to be 2 or 3 different sizes. The only one in good shape is the brake booster.

Are the Haynes or Chiltons manuals worthwhile for this van?

Thank you. I’ll try to post a couple pics of what im looking at now.

Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: 84G20HiTop] #748521
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Few images.

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Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: 84G20HiTop] #748570
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Well reading that chart, or learning to read it rather, was pretty interesting. Going from engines that create air with a mounted air compressor (DD’s, S60’s or ISX’s) to one that creates used vacuum was fun. Chart was not hard to read. I just picked an accessory and worked to the end of the run then went to another one until they all let up at the carb. Even hoses that should’ve been there were not there before I went in. Fun. I also removed the smog pump and manifold injection valves and put in 1/2” (x18 or 20, can’t remember which) plugs from Lowe’s. I left the EGR for now because I read it may need a tune or some other cats. What I read about someone removing all but 1 or 2 vacuum lines was from a tuned and modified engine.
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: 84G20HiTop] #748641
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i am curious to know this as well. I would love to delete as much vacuum stuff as I can. my van is a 79 with the 350 SBC and all the smog stuff pulled off the manifolds, too.


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what chart were you using?

Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: 84G20HiTop] #748643
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FYI- the air injection is more important to te catalytic converter on a cabureted engine than is the EGR valve, but both are beneficial to the engine and should be left intact and functioning.


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Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: 84G20HiTop] #748662
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Air injection is an emissions thing only. In 1967 Pontiac had A.I.R. on California cars , which had closed chambers heads. In 68, the heads went to a open chamber design and the "smog pump" was no longer needed and was never seen again on a Pontiac.

Pinch off the vacuum line to the EGR valve while the engine is running. If the idle changes-the valve is bad. Then pull the valve and install a block off plate. If the vehicle runs "different"-the valve is also bad but leaking externally.


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Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: 84G20HiTop] #748663
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But air injection allows a cleaner burn of the exhaust in the catalytic converter and helps a converter survive longer behind a carb. Air injection helps prevent the overheating of the catalyst and the breakdown of the matrix which leads to clogged cats and exhausts.

EGR helps with controlling engine park knock and is a useful tuning tool.


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Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: NEmery] #748664
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Originally Posted by NEmery
i am curious to know this as well. I would love to delete as much vacuum stuff as I can. my van is a 79 with the 350 SBC and all the smog stuff pulled off the manifolds, too.


I believe there were some lines under the hood that were missing and not on the chart. I got the Tip In Sw with the two wires and the Trans vac switch with the green and blue(?) wire and a small vac line coming out of the back.

What I don’t have, and is not on the diagram XDK (pic) is the vacuum reservoir to the T and beyond.

Also, what else is not on the diagram is the main engine vacuum having two hoses off of it. One is on the diagram, the other goes to a T, then to the front under the hood somewhere and to the second pic I have. In this case, it broke off on a minor brush. Any idea what that is?

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Re: Vacuum lines and EGR [Re: Reed] #748665
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Originally Posted by Reed
But air injection allows a cleaner burn of the exhaust in the catalytic converter and helps a converter survive longer behind a carb. Air injection helps prevent the overheating of the catalyst and the breakdown of the matrix which leads to clogged cats and exhausts.

EGR helps with controlling engine park knock and is a useful tuning tool.


I’ve never bought that stuff, no offense. Emissions are for government to convert our rights of private property into regulated, taxable privileges. And cats won’t be a problem either. With proper tuning, any engine will run better than any with restricting emissions.

Back to the topic, do you know what they are?

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