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| | | Bit of a twist | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 Festerus Vannimus | OP Festerus Vannimus Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 | So, about three days ago, my 94 Dodge ( Ol’Blu) developed a lifter tick, silent at idle, but louder and louder as rpms go up. A non car guy might not ever hear it, but it was driving me batty ! I called a buddy and found out a cam/lifter job was listed as 10hrs, average shop rate around here is $125/hr, plus the cost of a cam and lifter set, too much for me to afford. Skip forward to this morning, I met up with my friend that I gave my 92Dodge to for breakfast, and found out he had listed the van on Craigslist for $800, basically what he had spent in parts sense I gave him the van. I asked what all has been done and got this list : Water pump Thermostat Radiator boiled and rodded Valve cover gaskets Tune up Rotors and drums Shocks at all four corners Belts and hoses Pads and shoes Sanded and primed the roof Door window rubber Adjusted transmission
I had gave him the van because he needed it to tow his race car and to sleep in at the track, but he scored a sweet Class C RV for that. So now I am gonna sell the 94 and drive the 92 again. . . . .
My van : 1989 Ford E-150 Econoline, currently named “WOLF-DEN IIâ€
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| | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 23 stranger | stranger Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 23 | I drove a magnum 5.2 with a lifter tick for 2 yrs then it suddenly got worse, like someone was slapping a wrench around in the valve cover. Drove it another year, no joke, before catastrophic failure. Went to start it one morning and it was hydrolocked. Turns out the tab holding the retainer for the number 8 lifters snapped off, allowing the lifters to rotate. I remember noticing that it was suddenly running quietly that day before it died then realized why after teardown. Those lobes of the cam were completely gouged concave. Head gasket had eroded and cylinder pulled in coolant, hydrolocking overnight. Probably could have flogged it out longer by pushing the water out and putting the fouled plug back in.....
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| | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | Cool! Save the best parts of the 94 for the 92! Lots will cross over.
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 Festerus Vannimus | OP Festerus Vannimus Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 | That’s the plan, the visor, the contractors box center consol I have, rear bench I just bought, bucket seats too. Stereo will be saved, lots of little things.
My van : 1989 Ford E-150 Econoline, currently named “WOLF-DEN IIâ€
Founder & President of Sooner or Later United Truckers and PROUD TO BE A S.L.U.T. ! !
| | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,463 Likes: 12 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,463 Likes: 12 | Wow Uncle Fester, it's musical vans again... Guess the 94 got the memo that the 92 wanted to come home! Sounds like your friend has done some seriously nice work on the 92 to make it tow-ready; hope it sees you through for the long haul!
-It's been such a LONG TIME... BlueShift>> 1981 Dodge Ram B250 Custom Sportsman Maxi Van It's what you learn after you know it all, that counts... Are you living to work, or working to live? Learning from my own mistakes is good, learning from yours would be much better! | | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 Festerus Vannimus | OP Festerus Vannimus Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 | Only issue it has now is a puff of smoke at start up and sometimes when leaving a red light, mostly from the drivers bank. That is one nice thing about true duals, it is easy to see what bank is smoking. I am thinking valve guide seals, but have not ruled out the need for head rebuild either. I am gonna have to do a wet/dry compression test some time soon to figure it out, and then decide what to do from there.
My van : 1989 Ford E-150 Econoline, currently named “WOLF-DEN IIâ€
Founder & President of Sooner or Later United Truckers and PROUD TO BE A S.L.U.T. ! !
| | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: May 2018 Posts: 2,397 Likes: 64 veteran | veteran Joined: May 2018 Posts: 2,397 Likes: 64 | Great thing about Mopar if they pick up power or go faster for no reason they are on a death roll..never fails at the drag strip, my 79 Lebaron pick up a half second when it started to sling rods...and when they bark second gear 3 times on the same pass your about to have some fun.lol but I fixed my crop dusting problem on my b150 with valve stem seals,took an hour and a half start to finish
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| | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 Festerus Vannimus | OP Festerus Vannimus Joined: May 2007 Posts: 9,854 Likes: 8 | Damn, why can’t you live closer ?!? LOL. I have turned wrench’s for a living in the past, but have no clue about heads , nor do I have a place to do that kind of work to a motor. . . . . Care to come visit OKC ? LOL
My van : 1989 Ford E-150 Econoline, currently named “WOLF-DEN IIâ€
Founder & President of Sooner or Later United Truckers and PROUD TO BE A S.L.U.T. ! !
| | | Re: Bit of a twist | Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,847 Likes: 42 veteran | veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,847 Likes: 42 | A lifter tick can also sound like an exhaust leak at the manifold. BUt removing the manifold without breaking studs/bolts in the heads can also be a tool throwing curse fest.
Lifter ticks might respond to mechanic in a bottle like Marvel mystery oil or some Seafoam in the sump. Risilone, Liquimoly, ect might possibly be effective on a ticky lifter.
I have a fairly quiet one that comes and goes. Seems to come with lots of short trip driving and goes with longer highway drives.
Worst lifter tick happened after I let someone convince me I needed to run 20w-50 a decade ago. Wound up draining it in 100 mile add returned to 10w-40 and the tick almost instantly disappeared.
I could likely just have removed and replaced the oversize filter and added some 0w-20 rather than wasting the full 5 quarts of 20w-50
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