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steering not returning to center #735240
April 18th 2018 12:02 am
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1975 Dodge B100 here. Non-tilt. The steering wheel won't return to center while driving. I've only driven it a couple times before I replaced (and continue to replace) lots of parts, as I bought this girl not running back in December and it's my first van. OK, NEW steering gear, drag link, ball joints, control arm bushings, shocks, tires, rotors, calipers/pads, brake hoses, GRANT steering wheel, and paid for an alignment job. With drag link disconnected from steering arm- tires and tie rods, ball joints move nice, no binding. Still disconnected drag link- I feel the steering wheel is hard to turn while engine is running, harder than my old steering gear, plus when engine is OFF, if the steering wheel is turned back and forth rapidly, a clunk can be heard coming from steering gear and I feel this is not normal, lol. I've bled the system repeatedly. The pump is quiet, and not leaking, no aeration in fluid. I feel I have a bad steering gear that needs warrantied but I'm open to your guys thoughts please, sorry for the lengthy post, I'm trying to not forget anything. I did try and adjust the Sector, but it seems that is only for steering wheel free play?? as it didn't change the effort needed to turn the steering wheel, only the "slack" Again, my main concern is ZERO return to center of steering wheel while driving. No binding, no unusual noises either. Tires full of air too, lol. Bad steering gear is prognosis and thanks in advance, fellas!! -JD
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Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735247
April 18th 2018 3:09 am
April 18th 2018 3:09 am
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Sounds like the gear box. It is a new "rebuilt" box?, by whom? Did you buy one from a local source?, shipping can get costly. Should be able to get a new one under replacement warranty and try again! I think when you adjusted the sector it tightened everything up. Did you lose any free-play? Had the same issue with my 1972 B200 original box, very sloppy!!!! Tightened the adjuster and lost some free-play, but would not return to center. Never tried to re-adjust mine, but seen somebody adjusted theirs with the wheels turned as to not over-tighten when turning, but again I have NO FIRSTHAND knowledge if this works!!! I have heard many folks complain about re-built boxes! Most say they need adjusting right from the box. Replaced mine with a rebuilt one from a yard(still had rebuild paper sticker) Still has too much slop,(way better) but did not adjust anything. Going to take my original box to SteerandGear in Columbus for a rebuild. Asked on here earlier and no one replied about these guys, but hear great things from local Mopar guys, many people here recommend Redhead gear boxes. We'll know soon. I'll keep you posted!!

Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735249
April 18th 2018 7:06 am
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I put so many of these in I became an expert indy pit stop crew .
Let's see 3 from Auto Zone NONE would return to center.
3 from O'reilly's None would center 2 were locked up and wouldn't even turn at all.. 2 From Advanced both Flipped to full right or left in a turn. Almost wreaked the van .
Only acceptable one was from Napa. Didin;'t center perfect but 10 times better than ALL the rest and seems to have gotten better as it took sometime to break in.

Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735250
April 18th 2018 7:06 am
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Good luck next time I would just have the original one rebuilt by either company mentioned earlier.

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Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735258
April 18th 2018 8:27 am
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The clunk you hear is probably at the rag joint where the steering sector shaft connects to the steering box. Was the pitman arm installed in the correct position on the new box. You can adjust the pressure on the steering box, but is a very delicate procedure. Loosen the 2 bolts on top of the box and move the plate a hair to distribute the fluid pressure on the gear. I did this on a 78 Cordoba years ago that wouldn't return to center and it fixed the problem. You may want to have the alignment shop take another look at it.

Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735261
April 18th 2018 11:16 am
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Thanks guys. This was a refurbished part from Advance Auto. Im going there today to hopefully get another one coming and hope for the best or perhaps consider Napa as I like them. If this doesn't fix me I'll be having to think of plan B. In the meantime I'll investigate the places mentioned for a rebuild as well. Thanks.


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Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735272
April 18th 2018 8:06 pm
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Not to scare you but inspect the area where the steering box is bolted to the frame . The frame tends to crack there . While underneath with a lite look at the box with engine off and have someone rock the wheel to see what's moving ...hopefully it's only the arm. Good luck.


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Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735274
April 18th 2018 10:13 pm
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So today I put on a different gear box, from O'reilys, as Advance did not have one at the home warehouse to even order. Same price, I'll return the old one. Keep in mind this, again is a reman gear box, but new in the box. Got her in, fill and bled it, drove it. It does steer easy as it should. As far as retuning to center....left turns, its trying lol. Not great but it is trying. Right turns, not at all. Pretty bummed but I'm buying the cheap stuff. At this point I'm thinking probably have to send her to a professional next winter and let them do their thing...unless anyone has a better suggestion. I may play with the sector ever so slightly. Thanks for your input. JD
Doc 2% I'll investigate, thank you!
Meanmachine, thankfully the new gearbox does not clunk.


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Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735277
April 18th 2018 10:24 pm
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Aaaaaand I just sent looked at Steerandgear.com and sent an email , lol.


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Re: steering not returning to center [Re: jason159] #735278
April 19th 2018 12:46 am
April 19th 2018 12:46 am
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Talked with Craig at Steerandgear about your issue, it has to do with the way they are adjusted, pressures, etc. Had forgotten, already dropped off the box 2 Fridays ago!!! DUH. It was 320.00 +, but no shipping involved. It will be a few days before I install, but I'll post as soon as I return from a short drive. Looks like a quality job. Do you have a yard that you could pull from and rebuild and keep you moving? Did you turn in your old box already? It may have been sent back already, core charges and warranties can sometimes be a bear. Tell Craig, Mark with the van, from Mansfield sent ya', Told him someone may be calling!!

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