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Roof support ribs caved in #733781
March 06th 2018 8:54 pm
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Is there an easy fix for these bowed in ribs? I'm no welder, so about the only fix would be to drop bolts through the roof...and mar my lovely roof patina!

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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733801
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Put body panel adhesive on them and then use a few 2x4s and a few bottle jacks to push them back up to the roof and allow the adhesive to set? Just don't over do it with the jack.

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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733802
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Cut some replacements from a donor van in the junkyard. When cutting them out be sure to cut and leave some extra metal on the ends of the replacements. Cut your bent ones out flush on the ends and support the replacements like Shaggy said, securing them thru the extra metal on the ends into the existing metal. There should be enough gap along the ledge there on each side for some short, stout screws without penetrating the outside body.
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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733807
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I think you got an idea there, Catfish.
Shaggy, the issue with your idea is that a PO tried to gorilla glue the ribs back up or something, there's a foamy adhesive underneath which would need removal.
Not that I hadn't planned to do this anyway, but removing the ribs makes the job easier.
I could probably cut some tabs, get the edges to interlock somewhat, and combine both ideas here with screws and adhesive...
Anybody know if it's easy to color match Chevy paint?

Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733817
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That expanding foam crap is what Chevy used at the factory. Just glue them back up using strong adhesive, like shaggy suggests.

Any auto body & paint supply shop worth their salt will be able to match your color by using the color code and a scan of your actual paint.

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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733838
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That paint looks like Chevy Victory Red


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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Scrojira] #733840
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Originally Posted by Scrojira
That expanding foam crap is what Chevy used at the factory. Just glue them back up using strong adhesive, like shaggy suggests.


The reason the manufacturer uses that "foam crap" is to allow the exterior panel some slight movement compared to the inner brace (for thermal expansion without buckling the skin). Perhaps not as critical on a van roof panel, but let the hood on your new car or truck buckle in the heat, and you'll feel differently about it.

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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733859
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I would never buy a new car or truck.

Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Scrojira] #733865
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Tell me about it, gotta be a damn computer engineer to work on a new car. Give me a carburetor any day.

Regarding the foam crap, Dodge used something like a rubberized plastic or firm-curing caulk to attach their van ribs to the roof. Fancy stuff that takes paint, and tougher than the GM stuff. I gotta see if it can be had anymore...

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Re: Roof support ribs caved in [Re: Miyagi] #733869
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That sounds pretty similar to the panel adhesive I mentioned. I used the 3M brand one. It's used instead of welding on a lot of panels on modern cars. Apparently it's stronger than welding and not prone to rust.

For the roof ribs if you wanted a little more give in the adhesive (for expansion as Dyno Dave mentioned ) I would use a PU sealant like Tiger seal. That sets like hard PU rubber while the panel adhesive sets like plastic. And yeah replacing the ribs is the better way of doing it. Get a helper or two if you can ...sounds like it'd be the kinda job where you'd need to have a couple of extra hands.


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