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5 below and It started #731521
January 05th 2018 1:01 am
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I have in the past complained about my Dodge B350 with it's carbureted Rochester and 360 motor being hard to start. And it was. crank and crank and crank.
Well this week I was off work and decided to try a starting procedure I read on this forum.
The person stated first to see of there was fuel in the carb by stepping on the gas an looking down the throat to see if indeed it is squirting gas into the carb, and I did this and it was.
Next was to turn on the key and leave it on for say 30 seconds to 1 min. I did that.
Then step all the was to the floor 3 times and check that the butterfly is closed, and It is.
Start van and to my surprise in like 8 or 10 cranks it started and It was 5 below zero out. I could not believe it.
So I'm sure having the carb completely rebuilt by a professional helped but my bad techniques was at fault as well.
I would pump the HELL out of it and crank till I was blue in the face. NOT any more. hard lesson learned ,,, So thanks for teaching me a good lesson. and some good techniques to starting this old beast.
Happy New Year.

Last edited by Jerry_XtraVanTastic; January 05th 2018 1:02 am.
Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Jerry_XtraVanTastic] #731523
January 05th 2018 1:18 am
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Glad to hear you found some helpful info and your back and running.


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Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Jerry_XtraVanTastic] #731532
January 05th 2018 9:20 am
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There's a lot of people that think you need to pump the hell out of a carb to start it. My son's 76 Valiant slant six is one press to the floor, and crank. It will start almost instantly. My 83 is press to the floor and hold for a second (because the choke is a little sticky yet) and crank. If a carb needs to be pumped repeatedly it means the choke is not closing and you are essentially pouring extra gas in to compensate.


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Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Vanner68] #731540
January 05th 2018 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Vanner68
There's a lot of people that think you need to pump the hell out of a carb to start it. My son's 76 Valiant slant six is one press to the floor, and crank. It will start almost instantly. My 83 is press to the floor and hold for a second (because the choke is a little sticky yet) and crank. If a carb needs to be pumped repeatedly it means the choke is not closing and you are essentially pouring extra gas in to compensate.



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Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Jerry_XtraVanTastic] #731542
January 05th 2018 5:59 pm
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yup...same here,dads van 87...barely press gas pedal down til you here a click and turn key...21 degrees yesterday morning and fired right up...1 bbl carb

Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Jerry_XtraVanTastic] #731543
January 05th 2018 6:09 pm
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I grew up iin Alaska so I am more than familiar with cold-starting carbureted cars. One pump to set the choke, then either crank or hold the gas 1/3 down and crank should be all that is necessary on a properly adjusted stock engine and carb. You might need to crank more if the float bowl is empty due to evaporation or drainback, but if everything is working and adjusted properly, pumping like crazy is pointless and will just wear the carb out faster (accellerator pump plunger pumping a dry cylinder). Maybe one or two pumps after cranking for 7-10 seconds in case enough gas has reached the bowl for a squirt to get the engine running.


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Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Jerry_XtraVanTastic] #731545
January 05th 2018 6:46 pm
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forgot to mention i also put an inline valve on fuel line right close to carb to help keep gas in there...honestly cant tell if i really even needed it though..

Re: 5 below and It started [Re: Jerry_XtraVanTastic] #731550
January 05th 2018 10:05 pm
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