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interior panel installation, conquering the curves #721772
March 27th 2017 9:00 am
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im having a [censored] up time trying to figure how to mount upholstered panels on the natural curve of the van. i also have huge aftermarket windows, just flattening it out with plywood would be difficult to make it look good because the windows would sit 3-4 inches in from my ply surface. i could just cover the windows with ply. is this what people do to flatten the vans curve? you lose 3-4 inches each side by doing that. also the corner panels and the transition into the flat is driving my crazy. please give me your panel installation tips!

Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #721773
March 27th 2017 9:24 am
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Use either thin paneling or thin plywood which you can curved to the shape of the van Thicker plywood for floors only or possible cabinets.


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Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #721782
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luan isnt thin enough to make those curves

Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #721785
March 27th 2017 3:13 pm
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I'm probably not gonna be much help here. I used T&G pine boards on our GMC.
Ran the boards as far back into the corner as they would comfortably fit and then just used cloth with padding behind it in the corners.
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The pine is only about 1/4 thick and they curved to fit the van well.

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Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #721789
March 27th 2017 5:01 pm
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I have had luck conforming plywood up to 3/16 of an inch to the curve. You could use thicker wood and kerf it (google kerfing wood). However, kerfing is pretty labor intensive.

I I were you, I would build a wood frame around the conversion windows so they are held firmly against the body of the van and are watertight. Then I would build the wall to the depth necessary to mate to the frame around the windows.

If necessary, on the roof and walls I also recommend instaling 1/4 inch stringers across the metal reinforcing ribs to create more places to attach the inned skin to.


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Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #721985
April 02nd 2017 5:27 pm
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Here's a few ideas for you.

Many Vanners have made up molded fiberglass panels for the rear corners. This leads itself to molded-in rear speakers.

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The original factory rear corners in the deluxe vans were made of a thin fiberboard, like Masonite, which appeared to have been steamed into the curved shape, then was covered with vinyl. The top corners were sometimes made of molded fiber reinforced plastic:

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I'd suggest making mockups of cardboard; you can curve, trim, and adjust as necessary.

Try looking through the images of van interiors on the sister site, www.showvans.com for more ideas. Some are pretty brilliant.

Many conversion vans used wooden or molded ABS plastic inserts to take up the space between the walls and the windows. These are some I pulled out of a high-end van:

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I don't recall whose picture this was, but you can see how linear braces can be used to get away from curved walls, while providing you with lots more points for secure attachment:

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In my old Dodge van I used 1/4" tempered Masonite for its curved walls. It was about as rigid as I could bend without the sort of notching Reed described.

Hope that helps a little!


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Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #722003
April 03rd 2017 10:41 am
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Lots of good info here! I will be tackling this very soon myself

Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #722087
April 04th 2017 8:40 pm
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good idea. i think im gonna go take the back corners out of a custom van at pull a part. i've been trying to figure that out myself


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Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #722093
April 05th 2017 4:49 am
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I'll be looking forward to seeing what you settle on! Please be sure to keep us up to date on your progress.


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Re: interior panel installation, conquering the curves [Re: chanceafrica] #724266
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You can use aluminum sheet. I've used it many times in cab corners of older trucks. Use a big rosebud style tip on a propane torch and go over the aluminum moving fairly quickly. You'll notice it blush and look a little dull. You are annealing it, making it easier to bend without kinks. Once you fit it and trim it, you can use 3M trim adhesive to attach your interior to the aluminum. This strengthens the whole panel and it will hold its shape very well. Be sure to use the cone shaped trim washers under your screws you use to mount the panel. Easy peasy. No fiberglass mess, no frustration trying to bend wood or glue plastic. If you have a metal roofing supplier nearby, you may be able to buy some aluminum coil remnants up to 30 inches wide. I've also used sheeting for door panels. No worries about moisture since it won't rot. Be aware of places it can vibrate against though or you'll get rattle gremlins. Don't buy junk snips to cut thin aluminum, you'll hate it.


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