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| | | Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? #444430 February 08th 2011 12:12 pm | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,014 Likes: 1 Vanthropologist | OP Vanthropologist Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,014 Likes: 1 | When the Council of Councils was originally setup the internet did not exist. Clubs were plentiful and each council represented numerous clubs with hundreds of vanners. Times have changed a lot and we have evolved. This topic has been brought up before and now with the internet being an integral part of vanning it may be time to revisit the idea of vanning.com be considered a "council" representing online vanners who may otherwise not belong to a club or council. This is not to undermine anything that is already established. It is just a formality as both Astro, myself and others have unofficially represented vanning.com at the CofC for many years now.
What do you think ?
Yes (65%, 30 Votes) |
No (35%, 16 Votes) | | | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,750 Likes: 13 | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,750 Likes: 13 | as I have said, we don't meet the criteria to be a rep, but considering the nature of the beast, maybe it is time to make some changes to permit us an official spot in the meetings. 90 Astro - "The Grey Ghost" - Haulin Ass, Not kids.E-Z Vanners and West Vanners Council of Councils Board Member National Truck-in Board Support Team "No matter where you go, there you are." "If you can't do something smart, Do something right" "There are three kinds of people in the world, those who can count, and those who can't"
| | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 Vanner | Vanner Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 | This would probably need more discussion, but is an interesting proposal.
I would really like to see vanning.com as an official part of the CoC, but not as a Council. Other Vanner websites would then also have to be considered as well. IE vandomain.com, astrosafari etc...
Most of the members of vanning.com are already members of the Councils in their own Geographic area , and if represented by two councils, effectively get two votes.
As to the set up of Councils, Members belong to Clubs, Clubs belong t the Councils. I am not sure how to transition that to the web sites, where the members are the website.
Would that not make the website more like a club ?
I don't need to be honoured by Vanning, I am honoured to be Vanning ! Supporting Vanning, by going Vanning In A Van ! I hate it, when real life interferes with Vanning ! Van Clan Plus One, Vanning since 1977 ! Ontario Federation Of Truckers (Vanner's) Ottawa Valley Vans I.B.O.B. Founder,Mixed Bag Truckers | | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Don't mix church and state, why mix this? | | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,841 veteran | veteran Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,841 | I agree with both Doc and Ken, for numerous reasons that I won't go into.
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| | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,261 Bad Girls from New York, Bad Western Inn in IN. | Bad Girls from New York, Bad Western Inn in IN. Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,261 |
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| | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 774 old hand | old hand Joined: May 2001 Posts: 774 | I guess I have to disagree.
Councils can be made up of van clubs or individuals. People can be members of multiple councils. Only the individual councils can make up the rules about who are their members.
We are part of HVC as members of our club Ramblin Vans but we also are part of the Wisconsin Van Council as an independent.
The purpose of Clubs or Councils is to bring to together people that have similar interests.
The purpose of the Council of Councils is bring the Councils together for promoting vanning. Where does it say what it takes to be a council?
In essence, vanning.com is a Council (probably has the largest number of members too) made up of both individual members and clubs. Why are they any different than any other Council?
They also do the probably the most promoting of vanning throughout the world. | | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,750 Likes: 13 | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,750 Likes: 13 | while I don't think of us as a council, vanning.com is usually represented at the meeting, and we do discuss things, etc.
while Ken says don't mix church and government, that is kinda hard in this case, as we are already very mixed up in things, I personally have been trying to take an active part in the Nats board meetings, etc.
I see vanning.com as a tool, and the better informed I am and the more I know about how things work, the better I can use the tool.
should vanning.com be a voting entity at C of C? I don't think so.. but should we be recognized and able to chime in? I think so, only because something comes up every year it seems where i am asked to chime in as vanning.com
vanning.com is a virtual council I suppose, but I believe one of the requirements of C of C is that your council has to represent a specified geographic area... so what would that be? earth? 90 Astro - "The Grey Ghost" - Haulin Ass, Not kids.E-Z Vanners and West Vanners Council of Councils Board Member National Truck-in Board Support Team "No matter where you go, there you are." "If you can't do something smart, Do something right" "There are three kinds of people in the world, those who can count, and those who can't"
| | | Re: Vannin.com reps representing as a council ? | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,841 veteran | veteran Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,841 |
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