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Van Classes #313754
July 30th 2009 7:51 pm
July 30th 2009 7:51 pm
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Western suburbs of Chicago
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Western suburbs of Chicago

Full-size Vans:
Ford

61-67
68-74
75-83
84-91
92+

GM
64-70
71-77
78-83
84-95
96+

Mopar
64-70
71-78
79-83
84-93
94-03
Minivans:
Ford: Aerostar
Ford minivans (Windstar, Freestar, Etc.)

Chevy/GM
84-89
90-94
95+

Dodge/Chrysler
84-95
96+

MODIFICATIONS:
To further break down the competition, we have established the following criteria:
Street Custom 0 Changes
Mild Custom 1-6 Changes
Full Custom 7 Changes

These are changes involving bodywork. Boltons do not count as changes.


Last edited by on the road; July 30th 2009 7:52 pm.

Howard
"Nickels and Dymes"
Midwest Vans Ltd.
Vanfest Staff
Ontario Federation of Vanners Rep since 1978
National Truck-In Board since 1986
First van event-a hall party...March, 1974...ain't been right since!!!!!



Re: Van Classes [Re: on the road] #313763
July 30th 2009 8:21 pm
July 30th 2009 8:21 pm
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Brooklyn Park, Maryland, USA
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Hmmmmm. The Dodge grouping has me a little cornfused. 71-77 Dodges are obviously pretty much identical, however the 78, which is a bastard year, pretty much shares nothing (except the nose) with the previous models. They actually have more in common with the 79-up vans.

Also 79-85 vans are pretty much the same, with the grill change amongst other things coming along in 86.

64-70
71-77
78-85
86-93
94-03

Not trying to step on any toes, but I was just providing an idea.

One more question. If someone showed up with a 2008 or 2009 Dodge/Chrysler minivan shouldn't they be in their own class? 2008 was the major facelift for the minivans.


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2008 Dodge Caravan
1993 Chevy G20
Re: Van Classes [Re: NateB] #313771
July 30th 2009 8:32 pm
July 30th 2009 8:32 pm
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Western suburbs of Chicago
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The class is 71-78 because of the grill and nose. I think the 78 Orphan looks more like a 77 with different corners than a 79 with a different front. And we are going to look at the Dodge Mini situation at c of c

Last edited by on the road; July 30th 2009 8:34 pm.

Howard
"Nickels and Dymes"
Midwest Vans Ltd.
Vanfest Staff
Ontario Federation of Vanners Rep since 1978
National Truck-In Board since 1986
First van event-a hall party...March, 1974...ain't been right since!!!!!



Re: Van Classes [Re: on the road] #313773
July 30th 2009 8:38 pm
July 30th 2009 8:38 pm
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Brooklyn Park, Maryland, USA
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That makes sense of course. The reason I included the 78 in with the 79-up crowd was because of some other body cues such as the dash, rear tailights, window sizes, etc.


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2008 Dodge Caravan
1993 Chevy G20
Re: Van Classes [Re: NateB] #314169
August 01st 2009 6:11 am
August 01st 2009 6:11 am
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Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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When you refer to modifications, and saying involving bodywork, not bolt on, how do custom grills and custom oak running boards fit in?? There might not be any bodywork, but they are far from just bolt ons. I'm just trying to figure out how many I have now, so I don't step up by mistake.


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Re: Van Classes [Re: Dodges 3] #314179
August 01st 2009 7:43 am
August 01st 2009 7:43 am
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Western suburbs of Chicago
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The grill and boards do not count. Short seams, like at yhe top of the front wheelwells and the top of the front fenders, do not count, either. Emblems removed and hinge holes filled either. I'll get the next segment uop soon, with the descriptions of some of the changes and how they are counted.


Howard
"Nickels and Dymes"
Midwest Vans Ltd.
Vanfest Staff
Ontario Federation of Vanners Rep since 1978
National Truck-In Board since 1986
First van event-a hall party...March, 1974...ain't been right since!!!!!



Re: Van Classes [Re: on the road] #314190
August 01st 2009 9:32 am
August 01st 2009 9:32 am
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Black Hawk, Colorado
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Ask me .. When Howard classed me at the 36th Nats he said 6 body changes ... mild custom ..."looks like you knew what you were doing , getting the maximum amount of changes without jumping class" I said "yea, I did that" .. Damn rookie like me, I did not have a clue..lol That was a complete accident.


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Re: Van Classes [Re: Phoenix] #316315
August 06th 2009 12:52 pm
August 06th 2009 12:52 pm
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Posts: 279
seville, ohio, usa
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i got lumped into the "classic" catagory insted of the 64-70 dodge "street class" (0 changes). This sucked majorly because my van was then judged agenst EVERY "classical" vehicle at the rally (ford, chevy, gmc, pannel truck, etc)

....i would have had a MUCH better chance @ winning something in the "street class (0 changes)" class as there arnt many dodges that fall into that 64-70 catagory. do have to but a pair of cheap rims that look shiny just to get the placement i want? heh



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Next Generation Vanners Inc.
North-Central Ohio

...I'd realy like to see a finished van at the end of the tunnel once the fog finaly lifts..
Re: Van Classes [Re: on the road] #316318
August 06th 2009 12:58 pm
August 06th 2009 12:58 pm
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Virginia
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You can learn alot from Howard and Coop,if you take the Van Judgeing class


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Re: Van Classes [Re: Wizard78] #316413
August 06th 2009 8:12 pm
August 06th 2009 8:12 pm
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Posts: 6,266
Western suburbs of Chicago
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No, actually, you can talk to us at the Nats and get reclassified.


Howard
"Nickels and Dymes"
Midwest Vans Ltd.
Vanfest Staff
Ontario Federation of Vanners Rep since 1978
National Truck-In Board since 1986
First van event-a hall party...March, 1974...ain't been right since!!!!!



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