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MY 2002 DODGE!!!!!!!!
#82759 July 19th 2005 8:39 pm
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That's right, kiddies, Endangered Species has a new, matching tow vehicle! Check out this baby! 2002 1500, 5.2, 3.55 sure grip, factory tow package, rear windows only!  -  -  -  -  - That's not 127,000....  - [ July 19, 2005, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: hurricane2 ]

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Sweeeet! But if you hook em up rear to rear, I'll bet I know who'll be towing who!

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Looks good Wayne,low miles,nice.That should do the job for ya.Now another interior!
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Walls only for this one. I owned 5 vans and I couldn't haul a couch in any of them! Look for results of the race between this and Krispy's 01 Chevy soon, lol!

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Very nice. I'm sure it'll eventually become a full custom too, since it has so much potential. People are going to start looking at you like the crazy lady down the road who collects cats. [Big Grin] How many do you have now, including the ultra- shorty?

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#82764 July 19th 2005 10:38 pm
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Nice, good luck with it.

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Boot, this brings the count up to 6, but I'm planning on liquidating.

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#82766 July 19th 2005 10:53 pm
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Wayne,
I have the same 02 platform. Now has 55k miles on it-trouble free. your gonna love that van-

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#82767 July 20th 2005 3:12 am
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Looks nice! I give it less than a month until something custom is done to it, haha.

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#82768 July 20th 2005 7:26 am
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Nice Wayne.

I know the first thing to go in.....A baby seat!

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Awesome van wayne.... So, shall we start a pool on how long it will take before the wheels get changed, the hood gets a scoop and something custom finds its way into the interior.

Anyone?

Nice buy Wayne, hope you enjoy it. which vans are you liquidating?

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One nice addition to these Magnum motors is a Fastman throttle body. Blues Traveler (Dan) and I both have one and it does improve response. But not like a 440! [Wink] [Big Grin]

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Maybe like a 420? heh heh...420....

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Ahh, you guys know me too well. First thing to happen is that cool new window tint that fades from smoke to chrome on the rear windows. That will probably be purchased tonight. I'm planning on a set of R/T badges from a Stratus for the front doors. I'm debating on the grill and bumpers. I figure I can score a chrome grill from a boneyard, but the thought of painting the current one black to match the body (and Endangered Species) is appealing to me. Sooner or later, the rear bumper will probably just be removed (gas tank is on the side now, so no safety issue there. I'll be measuring the Nor Cal wing off the 83 this weekend, if it fit, it'll go on.

The 77 shorty will probably go up for sale, but I want to get it all together first. As clean as that thing is, it should be worth a few grand. As long as i can tal Beth into it, I'd love to get rid of the 83, too. She loves that interior, tho, so that's a hard sell.

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#82774 July 20th 2005 5:37 pm
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The Dodge roof was made from the same die for the entire run from 71 to 04....my uncle works for the company that built the dies...so the wing should fit.

Paint the grille black, I have the chrome grille on the 95 Conversion and I'm trying to find a clean painted one for it...If I don't sell the van first.

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Yeah, after looking at it more today, the grille and the bumpers will be painted black. Everyone has chrome. So hopefully sometime soon I can get a quart of the same black, and shoot the grille, bumpers, wing, and visor.

I don't think I can use the Fastman throttle body on the 2002, b/c there is no way to upgrade this computer. The 93 computers have 9 leads coming out of them, the 2002 has 90. It was an emissions test motor for the pickups. For now, this is all I need. The 5.2 has enough beans to pull Endangered Species, and I already have a fast van, so I don't need to prove anything with this one. Gosh, I must be growing up! Although the thought of choppig it has crawled through my head many times already, so maybe not! lol!

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I like the Dodge's looks, except for the mirrors in the front shot....just makes me think..."M-I-C, K-E-Y, M-O-U-S-E..."

Don't know why they dropped the vent windows and added the "ears". The old mirrors looked fine.

At least they aren't as obvious on am all black van...

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#82778 July 22nd 2005 9:57 pm
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here's a crude idea of what my 95 Dodge Perversion van would look like with a black grille....  - And for the heckuvit, minus the stripes and running boards...  - [ July 22, 2005, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: Vanner68 ]

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Yeah, now I'm definately going with the black grill and bumpers, thanks guys! My dad had problems with his headlight covers staying on when driving, so I think I'm gonna get a set and paint them body-color black, just for shows.

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#82781 July 23rd 2005 10:23 pm
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Nice van man, sheesh, a fella goes away for a week and all hall breaks loose here!

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#82782 July 23rd 2005 10:43 pm
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The blackout treatment looks absolutely menacing on a late Dodge!

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Well, the wing fits on there just fine, so that's definately goinhg on!  -

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#82784 July 25th 2005 10:25 am
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Dude, you gotta paint it black first [Big Grin]

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#82785 July 25th 2005 5:08 pm
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Those stock wheels gotta go....

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Send me some cash and they will! [Smile] Ken, it was just setting there for test-fitting purposes. I'm getting a little more patient in my old age.

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I know, I know, I was just bustin!

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Nice van, didn't want the wife to have the newest van? [Big Grin] I really like the look of the billet grill on the new Dodges. You going to put the smoothies on there when you get the new ones on Endangered? Lets see some burn outs!

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Wayne, I know you'd feel bad, as would Beth selling the '77, so I came up with an idea. Alot of us out here need good quailty parts, from a knowledgeable guy like you [Wink] part it out, and give me (er um us) first dibs. You should try "giving back" a little more....(just kidding) Looks nice Wayne, but Tina's not buying this six van thing. Where are the twin girls next year gonna sit?

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there ya go , nice van man  -

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#82791 July 27th 2005 9:52 am
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sorry but them rims dont work with the van
try some kmc/ konic / black rims will look sick on there cause your going with the black out theme

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dennis are both them van's your's love the dodge
nice rims and the hood scoop alot of ppl tring to put hood scoops on there van's i see alot of pick ups too with the big cowl hood scoops

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Murray, parting out would be an option, b/c the thing is so clean, but I think it's the only van I have that's actually worth more WHOLE, lol! Beth doesn't know it yet, but the chrome smoothies might disappear from her van! [Wink] The ones from ES won't fit b/c of bolt pattern differences. I actually keep picturing 4" and 10" Cragar S/Ss on it.

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Jeff the Dodge is my uncles, he bought it new in 74 and has seen who knows how many different paint jobs and motors(I think it's a Dodge thing). [Big Grin] He just put that hood back on before the Nats this year, he's had it just about as long as the van. Wayne what bolt pattern does it have? [ July 28, 2005, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: Dennis 460 ]

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The pre 85 Dodges use 5 x 4.5", the later ones use 5 x 5.5"

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I found the grill treatment I want. The new Grand Caravans have it. Painted grill with chrome edging on the inside.  -  -

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So the new Dodge got it's first bit of customizing today. I put fader tint on the rear windows. I love how it looks!  -  -

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what % is that, Wayne? I'm thinking about that stuff on the SS, but I think I want the red. I think it'll look tough with the yellow paint.

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I don't know, the box just says 20% fader, but I'm not sure if that refers to the tint, or the fade.

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I added some chrome wheel well molding and blacked out the front grill yesterday.  -  -  -

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Looking good Wayne....Still needs some wheels [Big Grin]

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Does anyone else notice the resemblances to Endangered Species, it won't be long before he removes the hood and adds a visor and race wheels.


Looking nice Wayne.

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I bet he doesn't Casey...bet that's why he didnt swap them yet.

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Hmmmmmm,  -  -

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That looks good Boot. Now delete it before Wayne sees it, He will be up all night if he sees that.

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that's hot.

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Way Cool! Shoulda left the window out though!

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Oh amn, Boot, that is too wicked!!!!! I actually will be looking around for a set of matching Welds, but in more conservative sizes! The similarities to Endangered Species are no coincidence, although I don't want it to be a carbon copy. I like all of my vans to have their own identity, not just linked to my "signature van". I'm still trying to come up with a name for it. I want something that is loosely related to the whole Endangered Species theme, a van that is the last of it's breed, or the final run, or the elusive animal I've been searching for for 9 years 9when I first wanted this style Dodge). I was hoping to get the wing on before Slam, but it didn't happen. I will have the chrome on the grill tho, to match the minivan pics i posted.

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Wayne,that is great trick photography.

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A guy on the forum here (cybervanity...havent seen him in awhile) had those smoked headlight covers. They looked pretty good on that body style. I think they'll look even better on a black van. Heres another good looking van with those headlight covers. dont know who owns this one though...  -

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Monsterbox, thats John from the Flyin Dutchmen.

That van is for sale, I think he's asking around 5,000

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Sheesh! Thats a good price!

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That is nice!

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Here's my 02 next to my dad's 02. You can kind of see the chrome trim on mine in this pic, I did it on the little vents in the bumber, too. I think it gives it just enough chrome, but is different from the OE. This was at our baby shower, Beth yelled at me for taking pictures of vans.  -

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That does look good Wayne. Good job.
oh..300

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Thanks. I just got back from my dad's house. He painted the wing for me, so that will go on tomorrow morning before the Mill Hollow show.

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Happy 300 Mr. Arbito! Wayne, the chrome trim is looking good. I get the feeling that in a few months this van will look quite different than it did on it's day of purchase.

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Just to keep this thread current, here are some shots with the wing on. That back bumper will be black soon.  -  -

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Wheels, it still needs wheels [Big Grin]

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Maybe he's going for the 'sleeper' look this time? Sorta like the guy with the white Dodge in BC (i think) with the 400+hp crate motor.

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LMAO, exactly Casey. Money, I need money! I really do want to get a matching set of Welds for it, but I've got a few low buck options in mind. One is a set or chrome dress rings. Another is a set of Chrysler Concorde hubcaps, I had thought about painting them black, but I think it'd be too much. i do have a pair of Weld center caps (from ES' back wheels) I had thought about seeing if they'll fit on the front rims. Ideas anyone? Photoshop help?

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I think you should put a set of plastic spinner hubcaps on it from Pep Boys......NOT!  -

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I'm getting a set of smoothies for it. My dad's oredering a new set for his van, so i get his old ones. Good deal!

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I think I finally came up with the name for the 02, "Old School". It's simple, but it represents the way I want to customize it (the triple sunroofs from the 77 are going in, and I'm looking at sidepipes). Plus I think it sums me up pretty well. I'm thinking chrome vinyl letters across the back doors. Although to be truely Old School, it may need to be hand striped.

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sweeeeeeet.

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Got aluminum slots for it yet? [Wink] [Big Grin]

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"Old School" fits so very well. If the lettering is not hand paintedthen do it in silver leaf looking vinyl letters.

Joob job Wayne can't wait to see more progress.

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hi wayne,, that looks cool and i agree, we are takin bets across the pond how long before the hood comes of and the visor is fitted lol!!!!!!!

hope you and the family are well. say hi to them for me.

take care buddy. now go burn some rubber !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Here's the latest shiny thing for the 2002.  -  -

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looking good I still need to buy visors a wings for my van

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here is a little some thing to think about Mid Dodge gullwings fit on you body styly Dodge... Here is a picture of the Twins white dodge from Md. with a Mid Dodge gull wing mounted on it  - The Odessy wing was also off of a Mid Dodge. Just some thing to more think about or keep an eye out for.... I got the chance to buy a brand new buck naked van in 85.Mine was white.It was like driving apound in the inside of a colman cooler...LOL  - ......Wookee [ March 03, 2006, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: wookee ]

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Ok, here's where I get booed, but I don't like gullwing doors. The only advantage to them is that they get rid of the hinges, but I drive my vans too much for them, I never understood how vanners got groceries into their vans with gullwings.

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there good for when it rains.

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yep, they can be a pain in the butt....BTDT.Who would of figured the body lines from a mid would have matched up............Wookee

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Boooooooo! Just kidding Wayne. [Smile] I too thing gullwings are cool and all, but not a good application for a daily driver. Also wouldn't the rain run in the top of the door? Best thing I have found for when it rains is get in, close the door, set up the table, crank the tunes and consume beverages.

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where o where can i find some mid dodge gull wings? I'v had my eye open for awhile and have had no luck! since my van is no longer a daily driver I think they would be kewl as hell especially since they would be plenty high enough that u wouldnt bump your head!

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ok, Boooo to both of you! [Big Grin] I prefer the gullwings, for a couple of reasons. The smooth look, the custom appeal, the light weight ( which could benefit a race van [Wink] ).as far as practical for a daily driver, maybe not, it depends on where you're driving it to. I would venture to say that most, if not all vanners with a custom van have another vehicle for getting groceries, etc. Also, anyone who thinks a gullwing door is just a simple bolt on couldnt be more wrong. The hinge holes have to be welded up, and there is much more body work involved in smoothing and fitting than you would normally put into a set of stock doors. The rear door on my van had to have almost 3/4 of an inch added to the width to make it fit right, that means a ton of fiberglass work, recreating the body line. Also, weatherstrips are not available for this application, and generic type weatherstrips must be used, which are much more expensive than even NOS weatherstripping, when you figure up the footage you need. Even after all the pitfalls and expense, I'll gladly keep my gullwings. [Razz] Wayne, that van is looking awesome! Keep up the good work!

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Thanks Boot.

One of the things I alwasy loved abouty Endangers Species is that I DO get groceries in it. I drive that van everywhere (last year not as much b/c it was a transition year with the new motor and working bugs out), but believe me, you talk to a lot more people about custom vans at the grocery store, post office, and library than you will at any car show.

To each his own, but I'm just not a gullwing guy, especially since probably 75-80% of the vans in show-n-shine have em. They've become "common custom" IMO.

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Thanx Casey I think I was on there before... it says 799.00 plus 150.00 shipping Plus 45.00 for a hinge and 95.00 for struts! wayyy more then I was thinkin of going... have to mull it over awhile and in the mean time gonna still keep an eye open...

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I like stuff that is really origianal so I dont care for MOST gullwings, that being said, some gullwings are more original than others... for example i really like superbeasts adding the front door to the side door was a real creative alterinitive... just want to say most costum vans i have seen have been pretty cool gullwing or not.

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I got some smoothies mounted, they still need to be polished. They'll be good enough till I have the money for the Cragars.  -  -

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Those smoothies look good Wayne.Its amazing how lust bolting on a different set of wheel change the attitude of the van.........Wookee

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Yep, next change is ditching the lame lettering on the rear door and putting on the script emblem I just got from Casey!

When I mix the paint for Endangered Species before Spring Back, the rear bumper on the 02 will get the black treatment.

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Next you gotta shave them door handles. [Wink]

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Actually, I still want to see if I can make the chrome PT Cruiser ones work. Shaved doors don't always want to open in the winter, otherwise they'd be gone.

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