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| | | Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | OP Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | I want to verify that my vibration dampener has the timing marks in the correct lace. In other words, I want to verify that my motor is actually at TDC when the timing marks say it is at TDC. My original damper disintegrated back in 2010 when I swapped motors, and I don't have 100% belief that the new damper is indexed correctly. The cylinder #1 spark plug is a pain to get at on my van, so I want to use the cylinder on the driver's side of the motor that is matched to piston #1, but I don't know which one it is. The firing order suggests it is piston #6, but can anyone confirm that? Thanks.
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | As far as I know top dead center is only matched to the #1 cylinder. | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,601 Likes: 10 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,601 Likes: 10 | OK, a simple diagram take your firing order and split it into 2 lines 1-4/5-8, there are 2 cylinders paired, but they are in different strokes, going the same direction, one in the compression while the other on the exhaust, the v-6 engines are offset a few degrees for balance, won't work for them, this is from engine basics at Nashville Auto Diesel College. Good luck. | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 194 member | member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 194 | 351w fireing order is 13726548 so the cyl you are looking for is #6 second cyl back on drivers side. Doc Yukon said that.
Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by a CLEAN end. | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | OP Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | That is what I figured. #1 at TDC on compression stroke when #6 at TDC on exhaust stroke. Yay. Much easier to get a piston stop tool into #6 than #1.
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,601 Likes: 10 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,601 Likes: 10 | Glad it worked out for ya, it's funny on the inline 6 engines, seeing them at work with the head off. It'll not be perfect, but get you close.
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| | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | OP Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | Being that the inline engines are inline, it makes it easier to visualize since you can watched the matched pairs work. For example, my familiarity with slant sixes is what gave me this idea. THe cylinders are numbered 1-6 from front to back. The firing order is 1-5-3-6-2-4 and I know that cylinder 1 and 6 are tied in position but 180 degrees opposite in the four stroke cycle. I figured it had to be similar with a v-8 engine due to balancing the vibrations from the firing order, so i figured chopping the firing order in half would give me the matched piston.
When I get my van back from the shop replacing the axles I am going to verify that my timing is set correctly and cylinder #1 is a PITA to get to.
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,601 Likes: 10 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,601 Likes: 10 | What are you doing to the axles in it? Yeah, V6 owners aren't in such luck, the journals stagger, to make them run smoother, I had no idea till I saw one back in 92 in the shop. | | | Re: Wat piston is paired to cylinder #1 in a 351W? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | OP Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | Last year I paid a shop to completely rebuild the front suspension and steering assemblies on my van, including pressing in new kingpins. They neglected to tell me that the holes in the axles for the kingpins were worn beyond their safe limit (or they completely destroyed them putting the kingpins in wrong). My van had a horrible dead spot ever since I got it back from them. They told me the parts had to wear in. So I drove the van for over 5000 miles and the steering got steadily worse. I finally took the van in to a shop that services big semi trucks and they discovered that the kingpin holes in both front axles were worn beyond use.
So, the short answer is the axles are being replaced and new kingpins are being installed.
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