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#577703 - August 05th 2012 10:24 pm IceAge II - The MeltDown...
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
Once upon a time...
I had a dream to chop a van... I saw this rust bucket chevy and thought it would be a good 1st attempt. I traded 3 weekends of painting for a van.
I made and sold 2 snack trays where the profit covered the expense of getting it flatbedded home the 20 miles.

I took an auto body class at an adult education thing that met once a week for a semester. I learned how to weld and do bodywork... I repaired rust on a ford ranger hood and tailgate.
My first time... what a blast.

Back to that chevy van... well life got in the way and it was pretty well rusted at the roofline... I decided to junk it since metal was up in price... The fiberglass doors of course had no rust. The timing for me to do a chop was just wrong.
Flipped the doors for a few dollars... Sold here and they will live on. The van returned a few uncle bens... I was sad to see it go... the other half had tears of joy to see it gone. (this was ok.)

Well money seemed to burn a hole in my pocket as I was searching the web for mid fords... I found this ad that offered a van and the repair panels to fix it. It was more of a buy the panels/parts and you get a van with it for a little more in my opinion. (value is in the panels/parts). Got it transported home with a few bucks to spare...

Took what money was left and bought oak wood for another snack tray. Well that snack tray has sold.

I now am stuck in home improvement mode... tic talk tic talk.

Uncle Fester was selling his snack track (late ford) and wood cover for the guage area... oak.... hmmmm
Need fixing due to splits... well I tossed an offer out that I could not buy the wood for to do one from scratch. Seemed to be a win-win situation. Just had to get it from OK to NJ without expense... The nats was 6 months away and no rush...
We did a pass from ok to kansas to the nats... where Chris Munz
picked it up and got it to NJ (thanks guys). Well you know the story... I will be stripping that tray and face panel trim down, the split will get fixed in the proper fashion and 2 great pieces will obtain new life... I will offer it for sale here once done. Anyone need a snack tray and face panel trim for a late ford? I do 1st quality work.
The funds will be going to the mid ford.

Now back to that mid ford... I am wondering if it should be chopped or NOT? Extreme or restore?

It is a 123 that needs a lot of work... But I think it would be a fun project to see where it goes. I dont have any real expense here so far as I am doing things o the side that I enjoy and it is covering the expense.

I want to share here and get opinions on how-to and document the directions to make it a success.

Never give up.

So what do you think, is this 1 screaming to be chopped?

[img]http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz300/egads74/nyVan57.jpg]IceAge II[/img]
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#577712 - August 05th 2012 10:45 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
Uncle_Fester Offline
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Registered: May 26th 2007 10:41 pm
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I can not see the picture here, but am really glad you got the wood parts and they will be given a new life. . .
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#577715 - August 05th 2012 10:52 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#577720 - August 05th 2012 11:55 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
Uncle_Fester Offline
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Registered: May 26th 2007 10:41 pm
Posts: 9039
Loc: On Route 66 in Bethany Oklahom...
Nice van, CHOP HER !
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#577729 - August 06th 2012 12:23 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
lukester Offline
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Registered: August 19th 2002 12:00 pm
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Loc: Lake City Florida, United Stat...
Looks good.I say go for it. cheers
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#577740 - August 06th 2012 6:16 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
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Looks good
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#577794 - August 06th 2012 1:42 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
Munz Offline


Registered: November 14th 2002 12:00 pm
Posts: 1232
Loc: Morris Plains, NJ USA
Since you already have a SWEET mid or 2 I say chop this one!!
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#577860 - August 06th 2012 9:54 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
Twisted Offline
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Registered: March 10th 2008 3:43 pm
Posts: 2253
Loc: New Jersey
Hot rod it out! I would personally chop a shorty....I like it!
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#577884 - August 07th 2012 5:50 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
wookee Offline
carpal tunnel

Registered: April 14th 2003 12:00 pm
Posts: 7562
Loc: Joppa Md. U.S.A.
If all you have is one semester of a body shop class under your belt I think you would just fix it up and drive it.
It would really suck to see that clean of a mid ford cut up and never finished.
Sorry there is more that goes to chopping a van than the experience you have expressed here.......

......Wookee
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#578033 - August 07th 2012 11:37 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
Lots of good feedback...
- I agree 100% that a shorty makes for a better looking custom van chopped or not.
There was that 123 display van being angled chopped lately and
it did make me think that a 123 chopped is still cool.
Also I think that brown straight chop was a 123. The one with the upside down shifter (video). It was one nICE van IMO. I am sure you would agree.
At the moment, I have this 123 to work with.
- That is really a magical pictorial diagram.
It does not look that good and it has lots of potential!!!
The van does have its issues... Rusted thru floor at drivers feet.
Rusted rear corner up to tail light... lots of issues.
It is far from a nice van.
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#578039 - August 08th 2012 12:07 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: wookee]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: wookee
If all you have is one semester of a body shop class under your belt I think you would just fix it up and drive it.
It would really suck to see that clean of a mid ford cut up and never finished.
Sorry there is more that goes to chopping a van than the experience you have expressed here.......

......Wookee


No need to be sorry... Your opinion does offer value. We all
hate when things get trashed or never finished.

Not that your saying this... but my opinion is that:
Folks come up with all kinds of excuses to limit their opportunities in life. Experience should never be a self-limiting characteristic to not do something.

Experience is something one gets by doing.

I am sure that desire, asking how, utilizing the
skill knowledge of this site, a plan, and action
can overcome anything. That's what this site preaches!!!
We can help you(meaning me...)

Model success. What Man Can do... Man can do.

You have inspired me to succeed. Thanks.

I will be chopping.
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#578076 - August 08th 2012 7:36 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
wookee Offline
carpal tunnel

Registered: April 14th 2003 12:00 pm
Posts: 7562
Loc: Joppa Md. U.S.A.
I have seen more than one venture out of there comfort zone and be very successful.
If you feel that you are ready to take on a major project like this jump in with both feet.
You will be very surprised what you will learn just buy doing a project like this.
Not to mention new ideas that come from a different set of eyes looking at issues that have been looked at before.

NJ is chop van central.Pretty sure that is lots of help close by.

The biggest deal to to have FUN doing a project like this.

Good luck,Let the sparks fly........

.......Wookee
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#578090 - August 08th 2012 9:53 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: wookee]
c1run1 Offline
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Registered: February 13th 2008 7:14 pm
Posts: 3295
Loc: new Jersey
quite 1 ,
I Know your a good writter , i heard you have a beautiful van . But thats all i know about you . So you have tallent .
1 You just need a place to work ( Garage )
2 Tools
3 supplies
4 and lots of extra time
5 donor parts witch in our area is hard to find .

If you want a small idea how to do metal work fix the rust spots first . This will tell you if you have the patience to tackle the rest .
Just look at the begining of my thread for the street van to get an idea of tools needed , i posted a photo for what i started with and gainded a few more snce then i'm sure .

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#578103 - August 08th 2012 11:35 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
NateNCBV Offline

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Registered: August 23rd 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 20415
Loc: Brooklyn Park, Maryland, USA
Superbeast did an angle chop on a long wheelbase Dodge and it looks really good...much different than an angle chop shorty.

Go for it.
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#578120 - August 08th 2012 12:28 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: NateNCBV]
tide Offline
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Registered: August 11th 2011 9:24 pm
Posts: 733
Loc: charlotte n.c
Go for it.
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#578874 - August 13th 2012 7:32 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: c1run1]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: c1run1
1 You just need a place to work ( Garage )
2 Tools
3 supplies
4 and lots of extra time
5 donor parts witch in our area is hard to find .

3 out of 4 is not bad... oh wait there's five. Seriously,
4 is the problem... but we all find time for the things we want to find time for.
Everything can be overcome...
This chop will start slow as I have to put together a plan of attack and still do somethings around the house...
_________________________
2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#578878 - August 13th 2012 7:38 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
quiet1 Offline
veteran

Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
Nate
I did see ken's chop on 2 occasions and was impressed with what he has done. The long wheel base did not take away from the stance.

I will be looking to do an angled chop...
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#578906 - August 13th 2012 8:59 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
HighwayStar Offline
Maniac

Registered: June 11th 2010 9:39 am
Posts: 12042
Loc: Burton, Ohio "Cleveland suburb...
Looking forward to seeing what becomes of your van...keep pics coming...... smile
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#578920 - August 13th 2012 9:39 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: HighwayStar]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ


We first need to understand where we are...
so we can figure out where we are going!
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#578924 - August 13th 2012 9:48 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
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Registered: June 11th 2010 9:39 am
Posts: 12042
Loc: Burton, Ohio "Cleveland suburb...
Originally Posted By: quiet1

We first need to understand where we are...
so we can figure out where we are going!


So true......... smile
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#579087 - August 15th 2012 1:27 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
YouCanDoItInAChevy Offline
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Registered: January 05th 2010 2:08 am
Posts: 237
Loc: south carolina
Good luck with this project. i will be following this one....
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#579092 - August 15th 2012 5:00 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: wookee]
Garfield Offline
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Registered: January 19th 2006 12:00 pm
Posts: 335
Originally Posted By: wookee
If all you have is one semester of a body shop class under your belt I think you would just fix it up and drive it.
It would really suck to see that clean of a mid ford cut up and never finished.
Sorry there is more that goes to chopping a van than the experience you have expressed here.......

......Wookee


I totally agree with Wookee. I have seen lots of 1/2 done chops for sale. Someone gets started then realizes it is more work than they thought or their circumstances change. Right now in the classifieds there are 2 or 3 chops for sale that may wind up as scrap, if they haven't all ready. They are rolling if not drivable chassis. Even if you get the hard work done life has a way of getting in the way.

If you start this you are making a long term commitment of large amounts of time and money. I don't know what your financial situation is but with the economy the way it is, it could quickly change for the worse.

If your heart is set on the chop, fix all the rust and get it mechanically sound first. If after that it turns out you are God's gift to body men, it is still a huge project but you have increased your odds.

One more thing to consider, what are the laws in your state? Does it have to pass inspection? How tall of windshield to you have to have?

I hate to be a downer but I'm sure all of the people we have seen trying to sell unfinished project vehicles were determined and willing to learn. That is not always enough. Once in a while that long shot gamble pays off. Most of the time it does not.

Best of luck whatever your decision is. If you go for it I sincerely hope you pull it off. Just seriously consider what you are getting in to. More likely than not it will take twice as long and cost twice as much as you figure.

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#579278 - August 16th 2012 8:53 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
We all agree that there are many things involved to make this happen.

The unfinished projects will always exist.
Too bad they are not all angled chopped mid fords for MY PRICE picking.
The losing streak was on my radar but the distance and not knowing how good/bad for the money killed it for me.

Whether I fall into that group that decides to sell or not finish is not my concern. My objective is to do and I will take action to that end.

I have the van and some metal to replace parts.
I think I saved this one from a crusher as thats where they seem to go.

Cost at this point is mostly time with metal work.
The risk is mine the second I bought the van.

For me, this is more about doing a chop at the moment. So that's where the number 1 priority will be. (cost is time).
Number 2 priority is generate funds to cover expense. That late ford snack tray needs to be worked and put up. Maybe I will make a van cabinet for sale.

"there is more that goes to chopping a van than
the experience you have expressed here..."

Wookee 's statement offers so much value.
What goes in is exactly what I need to find out to be successful.
So let us start to talk about what that action is.
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#579285 - August 16th 2012 9:49 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
wookee Offline
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Registered: April 14th 2003 12:00 pm
Posts: 7562
Loc: Joppa Md. U.S.A.
If you can generate enough extra funds to off set the cost of a project like this by building wooden van accessories you are a better business man than me.

Again it really boils down to time.

Lets just say it takes 3 hours to build a snack tray from start to finish. Not counting the price of the materials.

That same 3 hours can just be spent working on the chop and actually get more done........

A very successful business man once told me."spend time treating your self to things you want in life.If you don't no one else will".

.........Wookee
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#579379 - August 16th 2012 9:24 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
A wooden snack tray is merely 1 ingredient in the special sauce of funds. I enjoy wood working... so to me vans and wood are enjoyment of no time limitation.

Anyway...
I have been thinking about what percentage to chop out of windshield height. I will have to take some side view shots over the weekend. Then
mark up some drawings for presentation here.

I am interested in hearing percentages and inches of past chops projects done by others.
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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#581336 - August 28th 2012 9:30 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ

I have been looking at pictures of badcut and various other chopped mid fords (straight chops and angled chops). It is not difficult to figure out which of the two is harder to do. I do have more appreciation for an angled chop.

My plan is leaning (pun intended) towards an angled chop. I would like to keep the roof whole and tilt the sides in. I am guessing about 35% would be removed from the windshield. Once I get chopping on paper, I will be able to see how aggressive that amount is.

Looking forward to constructive advise on my project. I hope to radiate some interest...

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2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#581341 - August 28th 2012 9:57 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
vanfun Offline
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Registered: September 07th 2009 8:04 pm
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Loc: Hartville OH
I hope you are very young! What I mean by that is you might get kicked in the ass after the first major cut (by the "O CRAP WHAT DID I GET MYSELF INT0" bug) I say go for it. If you don't have time don't start. I can't get an interior in one van done to finish some one else's botched chop done. It is a lot of work and time and when you think your close the little things will take twice the time. I say go for it try it and if you fail at least you saved a van from the crusher (maybe to go back) but if it made you stronger as a person it was worth it! I will be here clapping for you every little step!!!
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#581865 - September 01st 2012 10:40 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: vanfun]
quiet1 Offline
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Registered: June 06th 2005 12:00 pm
Posts: 2007
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: vanfun
I hope you are very young! What I mean by that is you might get kicked in the ass after the first major cut (by the "O CRAP WHAT DID I GET MYSELF INT0" bug) I say go for it. If you don't have time don't start. I can't get an interior in one van done to finish some one else's botched chop done. It is a lot of work and time and when you think your close the little things will take twice the time. I say go for it try it and if you fail at least you saved a van from the crusher (maybe to go back) but if it made you stronger as a person it was worth it! I will be here clapping for you every little step!!!

young? Nope, I am stuck in the middle again...
Age becomes an excuse at its time...
Here is an interesting link where a 72 yr old couple builds a barn. A bit of time or a quick peak...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51837&highlight=year+couple

O'Crap? An Irish downer moment... (I am part irish)
Kicked in the butt... hmmm... I tried to think of myself in these situations and concluded that I dont really have that feeling... but more of a NOW WHAT.

Life is problem solving... I tend to focus on solutions instead of existing stuck or being depressed at situations or excuse minded. I take action which gets results... Sometimes good and sometimes bad...

Time... Time will always be a time slice... One does not eat a pizza all at once... but a slice at a time and it is gone.
Fail to Plan... Plan to fail...

If you dedicate time and prioritize, you will be at your chop and me at mine. Its finishing those other projects now while I investigate the chop and formulate a chop plan that is now occurring.
I always under estimate by 1 third. That's just part of the game IMO.

Not even thinking about the crusher... Thinking positive...

I do like that RED van of yours... and that chop too was on my radar.
I would like to see and hear more of the issues with that on your link.
So I dont repeat those mistakes...
I am ready to participate in THE WAVE for you!
_________________________
2014 and no more Econolines made... market blunder. The last new 2014 econoline to go to a vanner - DEADLAST
How many mid ford vans can 1 man own? Don't ask stupid questions...
My chopped mid ford will be painted black till they make a darker color.
Grind to Grind... Hot metal will abound the land... IceAge II 'The MeltDown'
My 3D printer will produce a life size 1969 mid ford in 2031... Wait and see...

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#581907 - September 01st 2012 7:40 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
wookee Offline
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Registered: April 14th 2003 12:00 pm
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When you acquire a project that is poorly done the mistake can really JUMP out at you to the tune of WTFWHT.....

For what ever reason for the builder not so much.

Here is a good picture of a WTFWHT Van.



It looks OK in pictures in person......Well.....
The van was bought cheap and is currently a test bed for for some really cool air lowering tricks and some performance stuff.
Unfortunatly the person that did this chop made some really bad mistakes......

Nothing wrong with planning on paper.
How ever "It all looks good on paper" has allot of meaning on a project like this.
once you start cutting metal and actually throwing sparks.Is when you reach the point of no return.
Things that you spent sleepless nights thinking about turn out easy.Things you thought where going to be easy and did not give much thought to turn out to be challenging.

The saying I like to use "It's only metal" comes into play here.
After all a van is just that a big rolling chunk of metal.
I am all ways amazed by what some guys can come up with on these big old chunks of metal.

..........Wookee
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#581963 - September 02nd 2012 10:17 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: wookee]
quiet1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: wookee

some really bad mistakes......
Wookee


It would be a great learning experience if you could share those mistakes. It would help in avoidance... and hopefully solutions. I hope that the mistakes are not opinion related things such as the chop is too excessive or that style mirror just don't look good.

Being different is what a custom is about. This chopper may just have more artismal character than our taste buds are use to (and that opinion is ok but not a bad mistake IMO).

I do welcome pushing the pedal to the metal in open-mindedness when it comes to personal taste. Otherwise it would be a perfect world where we would all own no window black shorty mid ford vans.
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#582191 - September 04th 2012 11:08 am Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
wookee Offline
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No this was not a matter of opinion.
These where some serious bad mistakes made that where buried in bondo.
I guess I should have taken pictures of them.
Really hard to put into words.
Because I really try to stay positive on things I don't care to photograph mistakes
It is one of those you really have to see it situations.
It is really too bad because it it was done right this would have been a very sharp looking chop.
also not knowing the past history of this van and who actually did the work. Out of respect.I will not say any thing that can be taken the wrong way on these forums.

Here is a picture of another Chevy that came from the North West coast that was done right





The builder paid attention to important details.
notice the slider is still there and working.That is a big detail all in ti's self.Not to mention the vent window was still in place
The proportions are correct.It almost looks like it was done from the factory.
This chop also has some age on it.Which is a GREAT thing when you start talking about chops.

.........Wookee
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#583637 - September 13th 2012 12:39 pm Re: IceAge II - The MeltDown... [Re: quiet1]
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Registered: October 25th 2001 12:00 pm
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CHOP IT!

Angle, at least 10"

Nothing more needs to be said grin
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