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#556437 - April 17th 2012 12:48 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation ***** [Re: Radarlove]
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Registered: October 25th 2001 12:00 pm
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Well, spent Saturday and Sunday in the garage. It was over 90 degrees yesterday and too hot to do much, so I piddled around a bit.

Anyway, Randy had asked for detailed pictures of the roof framing, so I snapped some while I was working on the framing. I realized the ones I posted before really didn't show much.

So, here are a few shots of the frame I built in the van









Then I proceeded to put the roof ribs in. Most are very small, but the front rib was spread and modified to fit back in. It worked out great too that it sat right under the new framing I made for the vista roof.







Then I cut out all the cross bracing. It's nice to have an open floor plan in the van again.



The front rib with the framework.





I trimmed the front donor roof to start fitting for the flat front roof. Yes it's going to be smooth. Here are a couple shots with the front roof skin in place.



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#556438 - April 17th 2012 12:50 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: 8StreetVan4]
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Originally Posted By: 8StreetVan4
Originally Posted By: draggnastro
i think the smooth look would be the way to go, maybe instead of his n hers, maybe incorporate a flush fit power moonroof from a newer car? the kind that flip up and back kind of like a spoiler. I think that would be very unique.


That would be cool. If you cut a power one off of a car at a boneyard that can vent and open in the back or slide back onto the roof when it is open...that would look really neat. A lot of those have smooth roof areas around them and they have to be really supported from the underside. I definitely like that idea.


Sounds like it has to be the plan. Now to find the right roof.
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#556440 - April 17th 2012 12:51 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: radicalran]
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Originally Posted By: radicalran
The power roof is a good idea. As for the smooth option, it's all about the bracing. If I remember right, the Corvair van had a smooth roof and that was one big hunk of metal. But it had some curve to it and adequate support. Based upon the frame that you built for the vista top, I'd say that you understand support as well as anyone...

Happy Easter!


lol Yeah, a wise man warned me well about bracing grin
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#556441 - April 17th 2012 12:52 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: Munz]
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Originally Posted By: Munz
Wow this van has come a long way since I last checked in here and it's looking GREAT! I like the smooth roof idea and I also like the power moon roof idea but it doesn't look like you have enough room for the glass to slide back in the van, they do have a power style that slides on top of the vehicle so that might be an option. I would finish the structure of the roof / chop with a smooth roof and and extra roof support underneath the front and sit back and decide if you really need / want it. The vista will definitely let in enough light, ventilation is another factor but you do have windows.

Keep up the great inspirational work Ken.


Thanks buddy! Hoping to install the Vista on Saturday. Wanna stop by to lend a hand? We'll get some food and beer.
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#556442 - April 17th 2012 12:54 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: c1run1]
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Originally Posted By: c1run1
I might consider a wagon roof section if it looked good . Hoe ever i'd go smooth since it's a short distance . And leave out the sun roof for now you have enough to do as it is .


This is so true! I'm going to fit the front section of the roof and the sunroof will come as time allows.
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#556443 - April 17th 2012 12:55 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: wookee]
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Originally Posted By: wookee
Here is a power roof /vista cruised set up in fellow radical van builders Frank Costas Number 9......



The sunroof was out of an Impala i believe

......Wookee


Thanks for that picture, I had forgotten all about that. Saw a nice one the other day on a Sebring. Would be cool if it will work as to keep it all Mopar.
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#556444 - April 17th 2012 12:56 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: Hammer]
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Originally Posted By: Hammer
I vote smooth too. I really like the idea of power sunroof like Frank's #9. Your work is really looking nice, Ken. I have no metal working skills myself, but I sure enjoy watching your work. Keep it up buddy! smile


Thanks buddy! I'm glad some people are enjoying the build.
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#556445 - April 17th 2012 12:55 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: Radarlove]
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Yes we enjoy the build
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#556460 - April 17th 2012 3:18 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: Superbeast]
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Originally Posted By: Superbeast
Originally Posted By: Hammer
I vote smooth too. I really like the idea of power sunroof like Frank's #9. Your work is really looking nice, Ken. I have no metal working skills myself, but I sure enjoy watching your work. Keep it up buddy! smile


Thanks buddy! I'm glad some people are enjoying the build.


I love these build treads, and especially the chops and radicals. I love learning about how much work and knowledge there is behind all of these fantastic custom vans. As I don't hold this kind of knowledge myself, I can only compare your work to the other guys on here building their own custom vans, and all I can say is that there are several great fabricators here on vannin.com. Keep it up buddy, we want more! smile
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#556471 - April 17th 2012 4:21 pm Re: 84 Dodge......Transformation [Re: Radarlove]
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Looks like alot of quality work there ken. Been toying with the power moonroof idea myself.
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