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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550411 March 22nd 2012 9:34 am
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LIAISON--that is the word we are looking for--the Webster's def reads:

An instance or a means of communication between different groups or units of an organization

I think that might be a good term to use for you Todd.


And Wookee--I do not believe that Dean's eVANts were in anyway an impetus for PA Dutch's style of truck-in. I say that because there were plenty of other eVANts that had been happening before Dean's stuff and I do believe he jumped on the 'van-run' wagon when he saw another vehicle type eVANt he could work. And, speaking as one of 'those' Vanners--although I never did attend a Dean Moore eVANt myself, VANNERs always have an issue when we put so much volunteer groups and individuals putting time, effort and money into an eVANt and then the next week we see a guy who is making a very substantial amount of personal money off of the Vanners and the eVANt. All the ins and outs may be a bit lost with history, but it IS what the Vanners perceived and as we all know--perception is reality in the minds of those experiencing it.

As far as the Truckers Unlimited stuff--I can make a call to see just how much they were affected by Dean's eVANt--I am sure it wasn't too much.



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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
Suzie-BGfNY-IN #550428 March 22nd 2012 10:48 am
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Don't let them get to ya Todd. I don't know anybody that spends more time contacting all the papers and magazines then you do. There is a lot of media event coverage that would never have happened if not for you promoting the vannin lifestyle. Thank you for all you do! And keep up the good work.


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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550429 March 22nd 2012 11:01 am
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You are promoting our lifestyle, not your wallet. I think the term "promoter" can mean any different number of things, in the case of what you are doing for the vanning community, it fits. We all know it's not for your own personal gain, but for the love of our lifestyle. I hesitate to call vanning a "sport" or our "hobby" because its so much more than that. Many of us have made lifelong friends and major life decisions based on/around vans, vanning, and vanners. My hobby is building and riding bicycles. Who am I? Im a vanner. Who's my family? Vanners.


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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550512 March 22nd 2012 4:52 pm
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If you loved or hated Dean Moore,Doesn't really matter he put on one hell of a Van Run Called Van Fest,And for years tons of Vans rolled in...Lots of vendors and lots to do.
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But Todd you are the man bow


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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550515 March 22nd 2012 4:58 pm
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pro·mot·er/prəˈmōtər/
Noun:
A person or thing that promotes something, in particular.


I don't see the problem



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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
Astro #550520 March 22nd 2012 5:24 pm
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pro·mot·er/prəˈmōtər/
Noun:
A person or thing that promotes something, in particular.


I don't see the problem



Me either. That is he point that I was trying to make.

Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550527 March 22nd 2012 6:02 pm
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Representative of True Vanner's may work......the 2% kicked the promoters out years ago and left a bad taste in those Vanner mouths that lived through that era....

The promoters in the day used the movement for their own gain, screwed parks and facilities and generally messed up to this day, where some parks with lonnnnnggggg memories still bar us.....

It has been along time since I drove 12 hours to a park only to find the gates locked, 500 vans parked on the road, an irate park owner who was promised the world, and and an absentee promoter that ran off with the Pre Reg Money..........Nevermind the ones that got 6000 vans, provided facilities for 200 and bands that had no power to play....ETC ETC....

So when you use the term Van Promoter, it is not only those that are true original 2 %'ers that would hate that term and what it once stood for...its the venues, and those with looonnnngggg memories that automatically dismiss you ( and worse, all of us )because of those memories.....

We have come a long way baby..........but we have to remember History is just that, and to a certain extent, no where were we are now !

This is just an observation,or explanation , not a criticism



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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550528 March 22nd 2012 6:02 pm
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Suzie yes there where plenty of event before Dean Moore.and after.
PA Dutch was held/started on the SAME Memorial day weekends.The same years.They where put together in direct competition with the Van Fest events.........

Wow we just took a nice trip in the way back machine right there......1981 30 years ago this memorial day weekend.

........Wookee


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Re: ""Promoting Vans & Vanning""
vanmachineman #550732 March 23rd 2012 9:43 am
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Nice trip back Wookie--

all I am saying is back then there were many eVANts that had conflicting weekends--still happens a bit today too. And that was part of the reason Councils were started--to help avoid all of that. All I am saying about Truckers Unlimited is there wasn't a motive to be 'competitive' or to 'take down' some other eVANt--just the availability of everything needed to put on an eVANt---grounds, etc...
not to be 'evil.'

Anyway, that is all past and this is about what Todd wants to call himself--I think you have lots of options and support now Todd--go with what makes you comfortable.



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