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Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496110 September 12th 2011 12:09 am
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Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496121 September 12th 2011 12:48 am
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Oi. The base timing on Ford fuel injected motors is not something you should mess with. The timing is controlled by the computer. You need to disconnect the SPOUT connector and set your base timing to 10 BTDC, lock down the distributor AND DON'T TOUCH IT.

It isn't like the old carbed engines where the timing control was completely independent of the carb and you could play with base timing, advance curves, and vacuum advance. The computer controls it all and isn't happy when you play with it. Setting the timing anything other than stock specs make the computer try and compensate and it screws everything up.

Time to school you a bit about Ford fuel injection. you can't be working on your fuel injected motor thinking it is like a carbed motor. At best, you will waste time and money, at worst, you will damage something.

First, learn how to run a self-test of your engine systems HERE. The factory computer does a fair job diagnosing problems it has, and you can get the trouble codes and run the tests very easily without special tools.

Once you have codes, see what they mean HERE and HERE

Here is how you set your base timing. Your 300 has an EEC-IV ignition system.

There is loads of free info about the Ford EFI systems on www.fordfuelinjection.com. It is worth your while to spend some time reading some of those articles and learning about your fuel injection and ignition systems.

Good luck, and don't be afraid to ask questions.

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Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496124 September 12th 2011 1:08 am
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I about ducked when I saw you posted Reed :-) . I knew you had plenty of know how when it comes to the Ford FI. I am gonna read up on all that. Then tomorrow, I am going to set it and forget it. The guy I got this van from had a "mechanic" replace the Ignition Control Module once before. Then he not the mechanic thought about turning the distributor to make it run right. Ok long story short, I am going to be cleaning up someone's mistake here. Ah well, I am happy all this piddly annie sheet is getting done so I dont have to worry about it! Thank you for all your help and posts Reed!

Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496127 September 12th 2011 1:31 am
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Hey, I am happy to share what I have learned through hard experience. If I can keep someone from making the same mistakes I have, I consider myself a success.


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Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496132 September 12th 2011 1:48 am
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Just read this entire post and wow, lots of ups and downs but looks like you're doing a fantastic job keep up the hard work hopefully I too can do up my van project once I start getting paid.


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Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496285 September 12th 2011 6:36 pm
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Thanks for the kudo's aftoyboy.

Well today I got the new part from Napa to the tune of $40. I just put it in around 2:15 today. I was so excited to hear the ol girl purr again laugh After dinner, I am going to go out and time her correctly. Tomorrow, I am also going to get the new (used) rubber put on that I picked up today. I picked up a set of four 235/75/15 Firestone Destination LE's with about 65% tread for $75. Well, that is about it for now. I will update later!

Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496340 September 12th 2011 9:11 pm
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Reed, I took the Dist out and put it back the way it was when I took it apart (one tooth back). I then started it where I thought #1 was. It started, sputtered and died. I then turned the dist counter clockwise and she fired and idled. I then determined that the #1 plug wire location was wrong on the cap. So I bumped the wires back one terminal (counter clockwise) on the cap and reset the dist to where it should be. She fired and purred. I got the light on it and didnt see the mark. So, I put some paint on the mark and lined her up. After I plugged the spout connector in, I checked the mark and it looked like it was about 12-15 BTDC. I also gave her a rev, she felt a little tight. So tomorrow after I drive her, I might loosen her up just a pinch. I'll upload new pics here in a little bit.. thanks for all the wisdom!

Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #496388 September 12th 2011 11:31 pm
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The timing mark is supposed to advance a bit after the SPOUT is plugged back in. That means the computer is controlling the timing.


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Re: My FREE '87 Econo I drove 350 miles home (57 Pics)
piscespokerbrat #497683 September 18th 2011 1:20 am
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Well, I double checked the timing after I drove it around town. Everything is spot on!! She runs so good. Every time I start her I am just in awe!! Anyways.. I have a question regarding the kick panel vent on the drivers side. Every time it rains hard, it leaks on the interior (which is how the floor rusted out I bet). How do I get this thing out to re-seal without pulling the whole bloomin dashboard? I have been so incredibly busy, I havent had the time to get pictures uploaded, sorry guys! I'll try to find tomorrow sometime. I have to put the radiator in the Escort, study for a test Monday in my business law class, and write up a rough draft of my resume, phew! Tomorrow is gonna be busy busy!

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