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| | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | OP Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Please keep the "CIA Triad" in mind: Confidentiality… Integrity … Availability…
I have mixed feelings about this.
I see the potential for a lot of good…. I also see potential for badness. I'm a Security Practitioner by trade, maybe that makes me "paranoid" by design, lol......
No doubt buddy! I'm envisioning this as being only available to me and a couple other administrators. I'm also thinking the only info to be dolled out would be by me at the consent of the vanner. Right now it seems to be the general consensus that vanners don't want to share their information. | | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,359 old hand | old hand Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,359 | I think this is a great idea also. It seems that I'm always collecting info on Vanners here in Michigan that have passed on to add to the Vanner Memorial. Especially the clubs here that don't get on-line. Good luck Superbeast and let me know if I can help in anyway. BTW I also like the idea of keeping it private; not being able to view unless you are logged in.
Action Vans of Michigan Second Generation | | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,207 Likes: 1 veteran | veteran Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,207 Likes: 1 |
My initial thoughts…
I like the notion that an individual must authorize the release of his/her info to the requestor.
Wonder how/if we could verify the requestor really IS who he/she claims to be? Maybe that’s not necessary, I don t know. IMHO, if my info was requested, I’d evaluate authorizing the release (or not) based on who requested it. (That approach can problematic if I don’t know the requestor is in fact that person. )
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Let’s say I didn’t know who specifically I was looking for. Maybe they know me - maybe they don’t. What if I wanted to query for all known Vanners in Ohio, that are still alive and truck’n ? I’m throwing a party next week and want to invite all of them, but I’m not sure who that is….. so I do a search…
Wonder how that would work out? You’d have to parse our any info related to individuals that declined the request…
The down side of making the info not easily accessible to the general public is it does just that. At some level it inhibits the flow of data, depending where you sit that can be a good or bad.
At the end of the day everything is a compromise. It all boils down to the level of risk one is willing to accept. Maybe I’m reading to deep into this… LOL :-) If we dont allow "outsiders" into the community, there isnt much room for growth. I dunno, just thinking out loud...
As it stands I plan do to go to CoC. I have full intentions of booking the flight, car, and hotel this weekend. I’m not sure if I would be an appropriate spokesperson for this. If there is no one else, I could relay the message.
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| | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,124 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,124 | Microsoft Excel can build a database that can be cross referenced by any field. Alphabetical, area code, or maybe you cant remember the person's name or location, you can reference by, say, Chevy van owners, etc. Any field at all. You can also go back later and find the date that someone was added. You can break it down by vanners added per month (which could be helpful for setting goals). It's virtually limitless, plus it converts very quickly to html format.
| | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | OP Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | HomeBrew, some really good points and a lot more for me to think about. I'm not so sure I ever really meant for it to be a mailing list, but that's not a bad idea either. Sounds like it's going to be a lot more work than I originally thought. | | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | OP Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Boot, can it have pictures incorporated to it also? | | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,124 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,124 | Boot, can it have pictures incorporated to it also? That would be something you'd incorporate when you load it to the web server, but Microsoft Publisher will help with that, and since it's all part of a package, Microsoft Office, they work well with each other. I do think it's a huge undertaking, and you have a ton of work ahead of you. Are you planning on making this database of only current vanners? If so, once it's done it'll be almost a full-time job to keep it up to date, as some leave and others come. Good luck to you on this! I know if anyone can pull it off, you da man!
| | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | OP Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | I have office here, but I see I have a lot of learning to do.
I would love to have this as a past, present, future thing. I think it's all going to depend on the information that can be obtained. | | | Re: Vanner Database Reply Thread | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,750 Likes: 13 | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,750 Likes: 13 | if you have office, I can work on an access database, I too have some learning to do, but I have messed with it before. juggling a lot of thigns at the moment, but will help out as I can. 90 Astro - "The Grey Ghost" - Haulin Ass, Not kids.E-Z Vanners and West Vanners Council of Councils Board Member National Truck-in Board Support Team "No matter where you go, there you are." "If you can't do something smart, Do something right" "There are three kinds of people in the world, those who can count, and those who can't"
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