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Re: What is involved with Installing a Light.
PMPWGN #353568 January 10th 2010 12:49 pm
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Good crimp connectors are every bit as good as a soldered joint when done properly with the correct crimper. Unless you are skilled with a soldering iron, I would definitely use crimps.

This is exactly the reason that the FAA does not allow the use of solder connections in airplanes. It's very easy to mess them up, get a cold joint and possibly have a failure.


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Re: What is involved with Installing a Light.
heavy389 #353580 January 10th 2010 4:14 pm
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Thanks some pics would be great. So the back of it isn't flush?
I thought I would just have to drill a small hole for the wires to go through the paneling. I don't want to be cutting big holes in the paneling.


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Got same light in my van from JC Whit,ya have to cut a hole almost as big as light,because of back of light havin mounts and swivels in it,I just took a pc of 3/4" wood and made a spacer like and stained it,then you only need small hole for wires in ceiling,will take few pics and post here tomarrow!O and they take a special shape bulb too....I got the silver ,Very simple to hook up!


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Re: What is involved with Installing a Light.
1Flyfisher #353586 January 10th 2010 5:14 pm
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Na its not flush,need like 1" or so of clearence for backs of lights to swivel,thats why I made the spacer! will get them pics asap cold as heck here in jersey! dont even wana go out back to garage!!! rofl


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M_S #353587 January 10th 2010 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by M_S
Good crimp connectors are every bit as good as a soldered joint when done properly with the correct crimper. Unless you are skilled with a soldering iron, I would definitely use crimps.

This is exactly the reason that the FAA does not allow the use of solder connections in airplanes. It's very easy to mess them up, get a cold joint and possibly have a failure.


Really? I always thought solder was better than crimps....


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Re: What is involved with Installing a Light.
heavy389 #353623 January 10th 2010 9:25 pm
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Strength of joint and resistance are about equal. A good solder joint might have lower resistance, but it would be so negligible for any connection you would use a crimp on to make it a mute point. The biggest problem is with the execution of wither method. It is just as possible to screw up a crimp joint as it is a solder joint, but it takes a lot of time, practice and good equipment to make a good solder joint.

The reason aircraft, military, medical etc. don't allow solder is for that reason. I have also heard arguments about the increased likelihood of solder "climbing" up past the joint under the insulation and creating a brittle joint. I raced R/C electric cars for many years and became very proficient at soldering, and I still use crimps for many of my automotive connections.

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heavy389 #353649 January 10th 2010 10:52 pm
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Heavy389 I am X-Jersey(Union/Seaside park) now out west in the Lake Tahoe/Reno area.

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1Flyfisher #353685 January 11th 2010 7:33 am
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M_S i see both dodgy crimp connections and dodgy soldering :P so theres really a no win situation for those people who cant do either. They will learn in the end.

But yeah, before I had a ratchet crimper I soldered everything or used open barrel terminals with multi-pin plugs because my father happened to have a open-barrel or "W" crimper.

I still solder, when im throwing in a stereo for someone or patching up wiring, so I save money on connectors. Unless they want to be able to change headunits, then I use crimp on bullet connectors.

Crimp connections done with pliers or those cheap crimping tools are dodgy...or when they use the wrong size terminals.


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PMPWGN #353731 January 11th 2010 11:16 am
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Dodgy at best when they are done with pliers. Definitely not the way to go.

There were some connectors in the street rod mags a few year back that looked like a standard bullet, but had threaded ends and would grip the wire internally. They might be good for a person who does not want to invest in either the crimper or soldering tools. Maybe someone here remembers what they were called.

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Originally Posted by 1Flyfisher
Heavy389 I am X-Jersey(Union/Seaside park) now out west in the Lake Tahoe/Reno area.

Kewl off Ex 2 on jersey pike here,was just in Union today!The company I drive for just got new contract with Union Beverage,runnin thier 3-4 times a week!!


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