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Re: How bout some ideas?
wookee #310492 July 21st 2009 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by wookee
I am not really keen on 2 Nationals.
We all know the rules for the bidding for the hosting of The Nationals was set up when there where 100's of clubs and allot of van councils.
Moving the locations helped to keep the event fresh.
Now with a smaller core group of vanners working on the nationals what would be the harm in picking some key locationas in the hot beds of the vanning comunity and switching off the locations from year to year.
The mid west one year,the mid atalntic one year,back to the upper mid west,then back to the new england area,
I have herd that vanner have complained about returning to a venue.
Bigger car runs like the Street rod nationals have been held in the same place for years.
I just kinda think if we could map out a plan it might be easier for the Nats board and the hosting clubs to consentrate on provding a better event and give vanners who live farther out like the West coast guys a more concrete way to plan to make an event.

......Wookee


Wookie I have heard the Nats board say something very similar to this, Howard or Wacko any comments?


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Re: How bout some ideas?
Snotty #310520 July 21st 2009 8:19 pm
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Re: How bout some ideas?
wookee #310521 July 21st 2009 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by wookee

If you knew well in advance,(some people do need more than a year)where we where going.We might be able to strengthen our numbers through the gates.

Back in the day part of the reason the rule of not announcing the location until the Nationals event was to help keep vanners from sitting out an event to wait for an event closer to them.


Wookee, I never heard that perspective about folks sitting out an event like that... dang! That's just plain sad.

Now, it happens that I'm one of the unfortunate folks Wookee mentioned who needs a really long lead time... my company makes us apply for vacations for the upcoming year in September!

It sure makes my planning more miserable. I can always get a day or two off on short notice, but the week long time off slots have to be set up *really* early. It's especially rough around holidays like the 4th of July, Thanksgiving or Labor Day. Then we even experience competition for vacation slots - only so many of us can be off work at one time.

I think this type of issue is apt to become more common as time rolls on and companies "grow" smaller.

I'm solidly in favor of the early announcements.

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Re: How bout some ideas?
luna #310522 July 21st 2009 8:26 pm
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We have talked about that. There are a few venues and area that would be great for a rotation. I do think it would be hard on the hosts, having to do one evry 4 years or so. it would also restrict new groups from out of the area from bidding, if they so desired. Personally, the Nats and C of C have given me so many opportunities to see stuff that I would never have seen otherwise that I like it the way it is.

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Re: How bout some ideas?
on the road #310524 July 21st 2009 8:30 pm
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Same locations would mean same hosts due to the location of the property. If you have a bad nats one year that means it is possible to always have a bad Nats everytime that place comes around. That would equal low numbers that year.


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Re: How bout some ideas?
Lil_Ed #310581 July 21st 2009 11:14 pm
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No evants in December? Hey, what about 3 trails Christmas party.....sure I know its a one day evant, but whoever has attended knows it usually lasts all weekend!!! You know first you go to Donnie's basement (with a side visit to Cabelas and Kansas Speedway) then you can't leave without visiting 3 Trails Garage in nearby Mosby, MO smile


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Re: How bout some ideas?
phrog #310720 July 22nd 2009 11:11 am
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Same locations woul not nessaraly mean the same host.
New York is put on this year by different host in a repeat location.The same with courtland.
It would be the Nats boards job to let a host club know if they did do a bad job.Accept or decline that group's bid.
unfortunatly bad things can stick in a vanner mind longer than the good work that has been done.
If we would run into a situation where there where not a group to host a Nationals it would also make it easier for the Board to come up with a back up plan/volenteers to help run the event.

Howard how many new groups are stepping up to bid?
This would not be a rule that is cast in stone but more of a guide line.....

........Wookee


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Re: How bout some ideas?
wookee #310722 July 22nd 2009 11:18 am
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I kinda think if the Nats were held in the same place every year, a lot of people would not attend. With today's economy and the rising costs of everything and the upkeep costs of vans and such, I think more vanners would choose to visit their local runs as apposed to driving half way across the country to go to the same place each year.

I know I will travel a long distance to an eVANt to see vanners I may not see elsewhere in a particular year, but a lot of vanners would not.


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Re: How bout some ideas?
Superbeast #310725 July 22nd 2009 11:39 am
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Unfortunatly these are probably the same vanners that would not attend a show/event if the public is involved.We are are some times our own worst enemies.......
Not the same place every year Ken.If there is a four year roation.It would help to keep things changing.For those of us that will make the trip no matter where its at.
The kool thing about the mid west is there is more venues to choose from.It seems like every county has a fair grounds.
I might take a little while for vanners to find a place that they really like.
The fact of the matter is we are running out of orginized hosts to put on an event of this scale.
I hope I am wrong here.
Some body correct me if I am.

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