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ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut?
#174965 January 21st 2008 12:28 pm
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Okay, the internets is a harsh mistress.

I am going to be doing a transmission fluid change this spring, and I want the best conventional ATF... Preferably synthetic, as with some of the cold we get, it feels like I'm pulling a boat when driving. I have a '96 Ram B2500, and the 46RE transmission. 129,000 miles. Still runs great, but sometimes I hear sort of a grinding when in reverse (but it sounds like it's coming from the front, not the tranny? )

I know how picky the transmission is about fluids, and Chrysler transmissions are already tricky to begin with...so I'm asking you experts here, what is the synthetic ATF I should be picking up? A picture of the bottle would be great, so I can't mess this up. I already have the gaskets/filter, but lucky me -- my parents bought me some ATF. The cheap "$2/bottle Advance Auto Parts" fluid.

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Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut?
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Well ATF+3 isn't available anymore and it's successor is ATF+4 which is a synthetic. You should use this.

Do not use Dexron/Mercon fluid.


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So is the stuff in the picture okay, or is there something better I should be using ?


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I concur Doctor...that will work fine.


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Grinding from the front in reverse...sound ominous..check the front u-joint for sure


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And check the motor/trans mounts while you're under there.

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Just a thought here, switching to synthetic while ordinary TF is left over in the Converter...Should that be drained as well, or will mixing synthetic and real be an issue ????

In the past I just used regular fluid with Lucas to avoid the problem, unless I was redoing the tranny with a new converter.


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Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut?
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Have you tried a low/reverse band adjustment?


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The synthetic and real oil should mix just fine.
Yeah, you should drain the converter, but it is not that important, you just leave some old oil in it...mo biggie

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Just to add...you can't really drain the torque converter unless you remove it or pump all the fluid out via one of the cooler lines, but then you risk burning it up.


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NateB #175763 January 24th 2008 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by Nate the skate
Just to add...you can't really drain the torque converter unless you remove it or pump all the fluid out via one of the cooler lines, but then you risk burning it up.
Havn't done one lately, but the older converters had a drain plug in them. You could drain them, but you need to make sure you fill the trans completely when refilling. You have to run it after filling, and top it off. then drive it a bit and check again.


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I think on Mopars the last year for the drain the TC was around 1977 or so. Kinda sucks.

I wonder if you could add a drain? I wonder if it would mess the balance up doing so?


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Well, if it does...I never had any issues with it anyway.

I would be more worried about the crap that will be in it after you drill the hole, and tap it.

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I wouldnt add a drain plug to a converter.
I did add one to my pan, thats easy enough, makes dropping the pan a much neater job.
I could be wrong but I thought my 79 dodge had a drain plug in the converter.


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Yes, adding one yourself would be a NO,NO! Like Rust said, you would be adding a bunch of crud to the inside of the converter. And it would throw off the ballance.


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Yep...but the dang thing just keeps working anyway...
No, I won't recomend anyone to do it

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Originally Posted by rust_collector
Yep...but the dang thing just keeps working anyway...
No, I won't recomend anyone to do it


lol I had a (dare I say it) car years ago that had a bad rear in it. Non-posi and it made a racket. An "old timer" told me to put sawdust in it and it would last for years. Well I did and it lasted, and the noise all went away. lol Sold the thing 2 years later to a kid for a beater and it lasted a couple more years till he wrecked it.


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When I worked construction, we use to stick sawdust and bananas in the rearends before the trucks got traded in. I know everbody's dirty ole minds is saying "kinky." LOL

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Bananas? Why Bananas?


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You beat me to that question Ken!


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Did someone say bananas?!?!
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Collecting bananas is a hobby of mine....


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I'm not quite sure as that has been years ago. I just remember the supervisor telling me and a couple other guys to chock the rearends full of bananas and sawdust. If I see him, I will have to ask him what the reasoning was for it. I also remember dumping something in the trannys. The boss is around 90 years old now, but I think I will have to make a trip up and see him, to find out what this was a remedy for.

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Originally Posted by Reed
Collecting bananas is a hobby of mine....


UM? Well? I guess there could be worse things to collect lol


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Yeah..like old scabs. yay


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WOW! That's one BIG bannana!


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This topic has gone way out of topic!


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What were we talking about anyway? LOL!


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A rear end with only one banana is a "limited slip" rear end.


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I don't wany ANY bananas in my rear end! smile


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I happen to be highly allergic to bananas. Which is why Im going to make like a banana and split this post before I go.. bananas.


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