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| | | ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 510 addict | OP addict Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 510 | Okay, the internets is a harsh mistress. I am going to be doing a transmission fluid change this spring, and I want the best conventional ATF... Preferably synthetic, as with some of the cold we get, it feels like I'm pulling a boat when driving. I have a '96 Ram B2500, and the 46RE transmission. 129,000 miles. Still runs great, but sometimes I hear sort of a grinding when in reverse (but it sounds like it's coming from the front, not the tranny? ) I know how picky the transmission is about fluids, and Chrysler transmissions are already tricky to begin with...so I'm asking you experts here, what is the synthetic ATF I should be picking up? A picture of the bottle would be great, so I can't mess this up. I already have the gaskets/filter, but lucky me -- my parents bought me some ATF. The cheap "$2/bottle Advance Auto Parts" fluid.
Last edited by ahanix1989; January 21st 2008 12:29 pm.
Currently driving: 2008 Mercury Milan I4 with most Premiere options (except climate control)
Still selling: 1996 Dodge Ram B2500, 5.2L V8, rebuilt 46RE, and Trac-Lok Limited Slip
| | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | Well ATF+3 isn't available anymore and it's successor is ATF+4 which is a synthetic. You should use this.
Do not use Dexron/Mercon fluid.
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 510 addict | OP addict Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 510 | So is the stuff in the picture okay, or is there something better I should be using ?
Currently driving: 2008 Mercury Milan I4 with most Premiere options (except climate control)
Still selling: 1996 Dodge Ram B2500, 5.2L V8, rebuilt 46RE, and Trac-Lok Limited Slip
| | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | I can't see the pic here at work. Photos are blocked by Big Brother.
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,168 Vanaholic | Vanaholic Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,168 | | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | I concur Doctor...that will work fine.
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 Vanner | Vanner Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 | Grinding from the front in reverse...sound ominous..check the front u-joint for sure
I don't need to be honoured by Vanning, I am honoured to be Vanning ! Supporting Vanning, by going Vanning In A Van ! I hate it, when real life interferes with Vanning ! Van Clan Plus One, Vanning since 1977 ! Ontario Federation Of Truckers (Vanner's) Ottawa Valley Vans I.B.O.B. Founder,Mixed Bag Truckers | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,855 Likes: 234 carpal tunnel | carpal tunnel Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,855 Likes: 234 | And check the motor/trans mounts while you're under there. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 Vanner | Vanner Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 | Just a thought here, switching to synthetic while ordinary TF is left over in the Converter...Should that be drained as well, or will mixing synthetic and real be an issue ????
In the past I just used regular fluid with Lucas to avoid the problem, unless I was redoing the tranny with a new converter.
I don't need to be honoured by Vanning, I am honoured to be Vanning ! Supporting Vanning, by going Vanning In A Van ! I hate it, when real life interferes with Vanning ! Van Clan Plus One, Vanning since 1977 ! Ontario Federation Of Truckers (Vanner's) Ottawa Valley Vans I.B.O.B. Founder,Mixed Bag Truckers | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | Have you tried a low/reverse band adjustment?
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 217 enthusiast | enthusiast Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 217 | The synthetic and real oil should mix just fine. Yeah, you should drain the converter, but it is not that important, you just leave some old oil in it...mo biggie | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | Just to add...you can't really drain the torque converter unless you remove it or pump all the fluid out via one of the cooler lines, but then you risk burning it up.
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Just to add...you can't really drain the torque converter unless you remove it or pump all the fluid out via one of the cooler lines, but then you risk burning it up. Havn't done one lately, but the older converters had a drain plug in them. You could drain them, but you need to make sure you fill the trans completely when refilling. You have to run it after filling, and top it off. then drive it a bit and check again. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | I think on Mopars the last year for the drain the TC was around 1977 or so. Kinda sucks.
I wonder if you could add a drain? I wonder if it would mess the balance up doing so?
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 217 enthusiast | enthusiast Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 217 | Well, if it does...I never had any issues with it anyway.
I would be more worried about the crap that will be in it after you drill the hole, and tap it. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,699 Likes: 1 veteran | veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,699 Likes: 1 | I wouldnt add a drain plug to a converter. I did add one to my pan, thats easy enough, makes dropping the pan a much neater job. I could be wrong but I thought my 79 dodge had a drain plug in the converter. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Yes, adding one yourself would be a NO,NO! Like Rust said, you would be adding a bunch of crud to the inside of the converter. And it would throw off the ballance. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 217 enthusiast | enthusiast Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 217 | Yep...but the dang thing just keeps working anyway... No, I won't recomend anyone to do it | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Yep...but the dang thing just keeps working anyway... No, I won't recomend anyone to do it I had a (dare I say it) car years ago that had a bad rear in it. Non-posi and it made a racket. An "old timer" told me to put sawdust in it and it would last for years. Well I did and it lasted, and the noise all went away. Sold the thing 2 years later to a kid for a beater and it lasted a couple more years till he wrecked it. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,964 Likes: 63 veteran | veteran Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,964 Likes: 63 | When I worked construction, we use to stick sawdust and bananas in the rearends before the trucks got traded in. I know everbody's dirty ole minds is saying "kinky." LOL | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | You beat me to that question Ken!
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 |
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 |
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 |
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | Collecting bananas is a hobby of mine....
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,964 Likes: 63 veteran | veteran Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,964 Likes: 63 | I'm not quite sure as that has been years ago. I just remember the supervisor telling me and a couple other guys to chock the rearends full of bananas and sawdust. If I see him, I will have to ask him what the reasoning was for it. I also remember dumping something in the trannys. The boss is around 90 years old now, but I think I will have to make a trip up and see him, to find out what this was a remedy for. | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | Collecting bananas is a hobby of mine.... UM? Well? I guess there could be worse things to collect | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | Yeah..like old scabs.
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | YOU WILL ALL SUBMIT TO THE BANANA!
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | WOW! That's one BIG bannana! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 Vanner | Vanner Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 12,898 | Tell it to the Peas that they have been replaced
I don't need to be honoured by Vanning, I am honoured to be Vanning ! Supporting Vanning, by going Vanning In A Van ! I hate it, when real life interferes with Vanning ! Van Clan Plus One, Vanning since 1977 ! Ontario Federation Of Truckers (Vanner's) Ottawa Valley Vans I.B.O.B. Founder,Mixed Bag Truckers | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 Madman! | Madman! Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 28,125 | This topic has gone way out of topic! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | Aww, come on. Give peas a chance!
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | What were we talking about anyway? LOL!
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,502 Li'l Blue Wagon | Li'l Blue Wagon Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,502 | | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 Maniac | Maniac Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,107 Likes: 37 | A rear end with only one banana is a "limited slip" rear end.
Windows- they're what make a van worth owning! | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 Supreme Master | Supreme Master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,211 Likes: 25 | I don't wany ANY bananas in my rear end!
Nate Breece | | | Re: ATF+3, ATF+4, lol wut? | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 417 addict | addict Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 417 | I happen to be highly allergic to bananas. Which is why Im going to make like a banana and split this post before I go.. bananas.
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