Re: Van in Magazine Van project.. | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,662 Likes: 2 carpal tunnel | carpal tunnel Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,662 Likes: 2 | I would leave the spray foam insulation out.Just somthing to hold moisture against all ready aging metal.Use the second gallon of wihiote to sray the insides of the van to match the out side. This Early got 2nd place at the van show at the "Nationals he did what I just said and detailded the van out nice.It really caught every bodys attention that looked at this van. Californacation is another Early done this way...... I beleve strong that having GOOD paint like this on the inside of a van is better than installing any type if insulation on the walls that will trap mousture. Even with a finished inerior having all the exposed interior metal painted to match the rest of the van gives the van a more "detailed" finished look. I think they sold you enough paint to do a LWB 3rd gen......
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| | | Re: Van in Magazine Van project.. | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,298 veteran | OP veteran Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,298 | Thanks Wookee never thought about moisture with the foam . and the funny thing is H of K donated the primer paint pearl and the clear as well as all the dryer reducer..
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| | | Re: Van in Magazine Van project.. | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,266 Vanner Extraordinaire | Vanner Extraordinaire Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,266 | I ran a shop for 23 years and had TERRIBLE results with spray foam(which we didn't do or sell)...I had customers who had their bodies literally rust away from the floor from all the moisture. (I always pictured slamming on the brakes, and having the floor stop, but the body keep going!) Maybe Rhinolining would be a better option? We always siliconed the ribs to the roof and walls, to eliminate some creaks...The new bubble wrap insulation has served me well in recent years...glue it in with contact and you are done! I also glue it to the back of my wall panels for double duty, and a nice airgap in between.
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| | | Re: Van in Magazine Van project.. | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,298 veteran | OP veteran Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,298 | I know we did a bunch of vans with the foam and never herd any thing about a moisture problem. I wander if that is a thing for back east or mid west. all the van's i did were in california. hell my van dark ages was all foam in the back. the guy that did the face rocks for Disneyland did the back of my van to look like a cave. the funny thing is you were bnot able to here my stereo from the out side with all the windows up or here any thing out side from the inside..
Member of Lead Foot Trucker West Coast Chapter Pea On | | | Re: Van in Magazine Van project.. | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,662 Likes: 2 carpal tunnel | carpal tunnel Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,662 Likes: 2 | Its not just a back east thing if you have temperature changes the metal will sweat.Your windows fog up don't they?
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| | | Re: Van in Magazine Van project.. | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,463 Likes: 12 pooh-bah | pooh-bah Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,463 Likes: 12 | I lined my '79 Dodge with 1/4" tempered masonite, then bored big holes in the masonite and had it sprayed with expanding foam between the walls, ceiling, and even in the doors. This was done in Pennsylvania in about 1980, on a clean factory painted interior with no rust. It was sure nice and toasty in winter!
The bottom of the body panels and doors failed from the inside out, like On the Road mentioned, though as long as it was mostly garage kept, (nearly 17 years) there was no visible rust. Within about a year after I had to start keeping it outside in Michigan, it started with the rust. I think it was due to the temperature fluctuations causing moisture to condense out of the air like on a soda can, but with nowhere to go but down and into the foam... and the foam had obligingly expanded and blocked any possible drains and ventilation paths!
There's a bit of a twist to my story... you ever heard of formaldehyde based foam? Yep, I got some of the last of that household type before it was pretty much banned. It's a very pretty white color, and when sprayed between panels it doesn't apply force against the panels as it cures like the yellow foam does.
I didn't realize exactly what formaldehyde was at the time I had it installed, and it took me some time to figure out what the peculiar bitey smell was; I thought it might have been the walls & ceiling deep pile carpet I installed, or the glue I used. It smelled pretty vicious in the van on summer days for quite a few years... perhaps that's why I'm so well preserved?
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Really though, with no aircon the formaldehyde mostly blew out the roof vent. It's not detectable anymore, but I'm not using that van anymore now anyway.
If you can completely block airflow to the metal surface with the foam, I think you might be alright, but if I were doing it again, I think I'd apply some really thick sealer to the metal prior to the application so no moisture could ever reach through pores in the paint, and I'd allow for some ventilation along the base of the walls to keep any moisture from building up behind them.
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